Distinguishing the root cause of disease is important before taking measures to cure. Find out how Dr. Lara works with people in discerning what is the root cause of disease, disorders and dysfunctions. Sometimes the roots are much deeper than we imagine them to be. You do not want to miss this conversation!
Podcast 7 Transcript
Welcome to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast empowering you to take a whole-person approach to your well-being, spirit, soul, and body. Join me your host, Dr. Ana Lara, a naturopathic, doctor, entrepreneur, and a servant of Jesus Christ. We are not just a body, we are spirit and soul. It’s time to integrate medicine and spirituality into our healing. Let’s get started.
Welcome back to Physician Heal Lay Self, the podcast. I’m Dr. Lara. And today we’re going to be talking about a topic called stages of healing. So how do we know when the root cause of disease is either physical? Is it mental, is it emotional? Is it behavioral or is a spiritual? So in medicine, we just really look at the physical body. Most doctors are just trained to look at the physical symptoms. If you’re in mental health, you look at the mental health aspect. However, the way I have started to work over the years is a little bit different. I want to start sharing some points here on what to look for, and I just want to start with I know that this message is going to be powerful for some people. I hope that it’s not triggering, but I know that it’s powerful because anytime that I’m getting ready to release a message or have an interaction with someone, my life seems to be crazy and I know that in the spiritual realm that this is the enemy trying to keep me from doing what I need to do in releasing this message.
So I pray that this message reaches those people that really need to hear this today because you’re not going to hear many medical doctors talking about this spiritual component. Typically when a person presents to a doctor with symptoms of high blood pressure or digestive issues or neurological issues, they’re just looking at the physical aspect of you, but you’re more than just the body, right? You are spirit, soul, and body, and the soul is made up of the mental and emotional part of you. So we need to understand these different elements of who we are. Now I get it. Mainstream medicine, it’s there. It’s good for a reason. It’s not all bad. It’s good for a reason. Absolutely. However, there are a lot of people that are suffering and struggling with many different symptoms and conditions, not really getting any better. So this is where I want to start to really break down these elements of who we are.
So we’re going to start with a physical aspect. How do we know if the root cause is truly physical? Because let’s face it, there are some medical conditions that will cause you a of mental and emotional imbalance. So when I look at the physical aspect, we’re talking about what is causing this physical disharmony, what’s out of balance and things that I want to look at is what’s deficient in the person? What’s excessive in the person? Is there an infectious situation that’s causing these symptoms? Is there hormone dysregulation or maybe there are some digestive issues, some neurological issues? Maybe there’s a genetic component to that person’s medical condition or symptoms that they’re having. It could be environmental toxins. We have tons of them in our food and the products that we use. And these things do cause imbalance in our physical body. So we have to look at environmental toxins like heavy metals and any other chemicals that we’re constantly being exposed to.
So an example of a physical presentation is someone could have hypothyroidism, low thyroid hormone production, and this person can present with depression. They can be very lethargic, they can have a lot of mental issues, low cognitive function. They forget things. They have a hard time speaking and articulating themselves. So this condition, which is the thyroid gland, which is in our throat, that gland out of balance can create a lot of physical signs and symptoms, but it also can cause a lot of mental and emotional dysregulation. So we need to first identify what is going on with that person. Is there truly a physical medical condition going on? Because if there is that going on, which many people do have them, we need to fix that first. We need to fix the deficiencies and anything that’s excessive and bring back the body to homeostasis, which means bringing it back to a state of balance, right?
That’s what we have to do. First, address the physical parts of you. The next part is the mental aspect. When I interview my patients and when I take in a new client, I ask about their mental health, and I ask about any trauma in the past as well. Why do I ask this? It’s very important for me to know what kind of life they’ve been brought up in, what traumatic events they’ve experienced because these things can cause a chemical imbalance in the person. Just imagine. And some of you may be in this situation, and I’m being very conscious of that, very mindful of what I’m saying because sometimes people are hearing this and that can trigger them. So I just want you to relax and just listen. These are just examples, but maybe this is your life, right? So imagine the child that grew up in a home with a father who is an alcoholic and very abusive verbally and physically.
This child’s nervous system is constantly in fight or flight, and most likely it’s going to be in flight, right? Sometimes even freeze. And fawn is another thing that people will go through and fawn, FAWN. What this means is that you take on the blame so that you alleviate yourself from some of the attacks that or the blame right from the parent. So children tend to do this a lot. In the example of the child who grew up in a home with a father who is an alcoholic and abusive, this child is walking around eggshells every day, all day when he’s home. The safest place for this child is probably school, it’s sad to say, but for children who grow up in these toxic environments, their safest place is being at school because they’re away from that abusive, toxic parent. So at home, they don’t know if any little thing they do will set off that parent and will make them upset.
So if this child is playing and drops something accidentally, that parent might lash out at this child in anger or physically abuse this child and it wasn’t even anything that major to really react that way. Now this child will kind of surrender and say, I’m sorry, I’m sorry. And these are the people that I constantly see as adults that are constantly apologizing for everything. Now, if this is you and you’re saying, wow, I am that child, then this is the place that we need to start with healing for you. Me giving you supplements and herbs and changing your diet, all will help the physical body to handle the emotional responses as you’re healing through that. But we need to give this part, this area of your life, the necessary attention in order for you to heal. Maybe your condition is high blood pressure or maybe it’s an autoimmune condition or cancer.
There are these things that we need to heal the trauma that we need to heal in order for us to get better physically. So the mental health aspect is super, super important for us to address because this way we know that this is one of the areas that there might be a root cause of this imbalance. That child’s nervous system is constantly in fight or flight, and so they’re going to produce high levels of cortisol and stress hormones that are going to create an inflammatory reaction and is going to be destructive to this child as they’re growing and developing. Your children’s brains are growing exponentially all the time because they’re growing. And so if the foundation of where they’re growing is in a stressful and toxic environment, this kind of stress on their physical body does not allow them to properly develop their brain and their nervous system.
So when they’re adults, they’re going to respond to life very differently than a child who did not grow up in this sort of environment. Like I said, this is just an example. So we want to find out what are the mental health issues and what’s causing these imbalances. If it’s genetic, is it a biochemical process? Is it trauma? So these situations like guess it can even be related to a particular just one event. It could be one situation that happens and it sets that person’s mental health off. One example that comes to mind is people who suffer from concussions, people don’t see the injury that the brain has taken. So you see this mental emotional change in those individuals and people don’t know why, and it’s because the brain has been injured. So that is a physical trauma, not just in an emotional life, social trauma, but it’s a physical trauma that we take that can also contribute to mental and emotional and physical conditions as well.
The next category that I address is the emotional health of a person. What is their behavior? We look at behavioral problems. Is there an issue with regulating their emotions? So we have to look at whether is this a behavioral thing that they’re not able to regulate their emotions. Maybe they never learn coping mechanisms, they never learn how to communicate effectively. So then we have to look at this realm too. However, physical conditions can affect your emotional response. Just look at women who go through menopause. They have a hard time regulating their emotions. Why? Because their hormones are low, their estrogen, the progesterone, which are the main hormones that women’s bodies like to have to feel good, they’re low and progesterone. So progesterone is a hormone that for women, it helps us actually to be relaxed. It helps us to sleep. It helps her brain with memory, concentration, and focus.
So if we are very deficient in progesterone, whether you’re menopause or not, you’re going to feel very emotionally unregulated and it’s going to be difficult for you to regulate your emotions. In men, what I find, is if they’re low in testosterone and they’re high in estrogen, guess what? You don’t feel good. You feel very emotional, and irritable. And that’s because those hormones are out of balance. Once again, going back, all of these things are going to connect with each other. They’re not separate from each other, they’re not isolated. We are all of this. We are hormones, we are the brain and we are spirit, and we’re emotions in our mind. All of these things make up who we are. So we need to look at why is this person emotionally unregulated and find the root cause is there. Now this next part, the next part is addressing the spiritual part.
And this is a part that as a naturopathic doctor, as much as we’ve learned mind-body medicine, it really is not talking about spirituality. And when I’m referring to spirituality, I am coming from the Christian perspective of spirituality. So I just want to be very clear. I respect everyone’s views, but I am coming from a Christian view when it comes to addressing spiritual aspects. The Bible is the oldest book in the world and the most accurate in the world, regardless of what people say about translation and things being lost in translation, the accuracy and the history, and there’s just so much evidence of these things that have been written in the Bible. There’s physical evidence now of these things, places, and things that have happened anyway, one of the things that I like to ask my patients when I see random situations where it just doesn’t make sense that this person has these physical symptoms, physical symptoms or symptoms or condition, there really isn’t anything that’s showing up in labs.
There isn’t really anything showing up in imaging. So what is it? I find myself to be in a very unique position as a naturopath. We are trained to work with people holistically and address the mind, the body sort of thing. However, this spiritual part really isn’t something that’s taught to doctors, whether it’s conventional doctors or naturopathic doctors. This is really the individual’s walk in their life with God. And so I have always had a deep connection with God as a child and always seeking the wisdom of God, knowledge of God, studying the Bible, learning from other people, and learning from older people than me have been my greatest teachers. And so these are things that I did not learn. I want to disclose. I did not learn in medical school. I was not trained by a pastor any church leader or anyone on this.
This has been my walk with God. And in my clinic, things started to show up. And I say that Jesus has been my teacher and my trainer, and that’s how I have come to be aware of these things being true. It’s not just something I read in a, it’s something I am witnessing in my own clinic. This spiritual component is very important for all of us because we have a spirit. And whether you want to believe in God or not, that is not my problem. That’s up to you. But there is a creator for everything. I’ve talked about that in previous talks. There’s a creator for our physical body in this world that we exist in. And so one of the things that I find that tends to be very, very problematic in patients as we talk about trauma, right, is there’s a deeper root to that and there’s this unforgiveness.
And unforgiveness hurts us. It hurts us. It is poison to us. And I understand. I’ve heard many, many very intense stories of people how terrible the trauma they faced, and I never want to downplay the seriousness of those traumas, however, them being resentful and hateful, whether it’s to that person. And oftentimes it’s to themselves. They haven’t forgiven. They’re blaming themselves or not forgiving themselves. They think it’s their fault, and so they hold onto this hurt and it is a thorn in their heart. It is poison in their blood and this kind of anger and resentment, it builds up over time and starts to create toxicity in the body, emotionally, toxicity in the body. So that’s one of the things that in the spiritual component is forgiveness. Who have you not forgiven? And also have you not forgiven yourself is probably the hardest. An example of this, once again, I want to be very sensitive to the things that I’m talking about, but I cannot tippy toe around those hard conversations that people need to hear because these are the areas that you need to heal.
I always tell my patients the things that you don’t want to do, the things that you don’t want to hear are the things that you need to hear. They are the things that you need to do because you’re avoiding them. Avoidance is one of the ways that we handle trauma. It’s a trauma response. We want to avoid it. We want to minimize it and make it small. It wasn’t a big deal so we can handle it, we can manage our emotions. That was okay when that happened when the trauma happened. But now that you’re older and you’re stuck in disharmony in illness, and you’re sick and you’re tired and you cannot function, we have to grow and be more mature now and acknowledge these areas that are hard to look at and to talk about it. And of course, it makes it so much easier when you have a therapist or a doctor or a counselor, someone who can properly guide you through that process and make you feel safe.
What’s very important, is that people feel safe. Going back to the unforgiveness and my example, I have worked and I work with women who have been raped, and maybe it was during childhood and maybe it was more than once. This unforgiveness that they have isn’t even towards the person who violated them. It’s towards themselves. They’re blaming themselves saying, I should have done something. I should have spoken up. It’s my fault. What could I have done differently to avoid this? So they’re making themselves, they’re revictimizing themselves and blaming themselves for what someone else did to them. So this forgiveness isn’t even about the other person. It’s forgiving themselves for the things that they would have done as an adult that they couldn’t do as a child. So these are the kinds of things that I’m talking about and it’s so hard. The other area that I see with a lot is women who’ve had abortions, whether they were okay with it at the time, and whether it was the right thing in their mind to do it at the time.
Years go by, they grow up, they mature, they learn new things, they experience new things, and now they’re stuck in guilt and in shame and living in a state of shame and guilt for so many years. It starts to really show up as an illness in the body. And so then it’s a process of helping these women go through a process of forgiving themselves. They didn’t know any better. They were 16 years old. They thought they were doing the right thing. And it’s not about casting judgment on them, it’s not about making them feel bad. It’s saying, if Jesus died on that cross for our sins, he broke the power of sin over us. Now it’s up to us to release the shame, to release that sin off of us, and to ask for forgiveness and to forgive ourselves in that process. It’s a lot easier said than done.
I get it. But it is a process, and it’s something that if you want to feel better and you want to live a happier life, these are things that you need to do. Obviously, sin, and generational curses, whether generational curses are individual or through the bloodline, through the family line, are there and they are real. And we’re going to talk about some examples a little bit later on this next topic in the category of spirituality. It’s not really popular to talk about in medicine, and I think it’s very sad. Not everyone’s meant to work with this. I get it. I definitely didn’t sign myself up to do this kind of work. But demonic influence and oppression, it is a real thing. Now, demons don’t have power. They don’t own us. They cannot possess us. But the devil’s very, very good at fooling people to influence them and make them believe that they are possessed.
So there’s a huge, huge conversation around that that can happen. We’re not going to go deep into it today, but as I said, I am going to talk about some cases, some examples of where I saw this manifest, and how when people were delivered and freed from this, we saw a huge change in their physical health. And like I said, these are topics that you’re not going to see many nature paths talking about. Definitely. You’re definitely not going to have your medical doctor talk to you about this. Some Christian counselors may talk about this, but a lot of the counseling field, they’re not talking about it. And I think that if the systems are not going to integrate these concepts, that’s fine. But the listener, you need to seek help for these things because there could be a possibility that these are the things that are setting you back from improving the next category.
So we’ve talked about the physical, the mental, the emotional, and the spiritual part. So then there’s the behavioral and the mindset. And when I talk about the cases, we’ll go a little bit into that. One of the things that I just want to share is that everyone’s healing journey is unique to them. There is no cookie-cutter approach. Well, working for that person with anxiety might be different for you. Well, working with a person who has diabetes might be different for you. So everyone’s healing journey is unique. Stop comparing yourself to what everyone else is doing, learn from what they’re doing. But you have to be experiential and do these things to find out what’s going to work for you and find the right people to help you. You don’t have to do it alone. Find the right people that you are going to feel safe.
You’re going to be heard and validated, and you’re going to get some solutions. That’s the bottom line. You want solutions. You want to resolve these issues. You need to find someone you feel safe and comfortable doing that with. So like I said, what works with one person is going to be different for another person while people are healing. It is an individual journey. It is one that can be healed. Sometimes it feels like, am I ever going to get better from this? And it seems like you can’t, but you can improve. And like I said, you got to find what’s going to work for you. It’s not the same for everyone.
So like I said, we’re made up of all these parts. We do not work in isolation. The problem with the medical system is that, and I’m going to be cautious here because I do believe that we need these specialties. We need doctors who specialize in cardiology, gastro, endocrinology, in neurology. These are experts in that area. That’s their specialty. They’re needed. However, when it comes to seeing your primary care or doctor, we need to be able to see the whole person in order to identify, I need to send you to that specialist to ensure there isn’t anything wrong there. And then let’s come back and see the whole picture. So I always tell my patients, that I am like a medical investigator or detective. I collect all these pieces of information about you. I put them together and then I find where are the missing pieces.
Let’s find the missing pieces and let’s link all this up and start somewhere. We’re not going to wait to collect them all, but what we have is enough to give us information to say, there’s hormone imbalance, there’s a thyroid problem. You have some toxins, there’s some trauma, there’s anxiety in the picture. Let’s give you these things to help the physical body just calm down so that the nervous system can calm down a little bit. And then we can see with clarity, the brain, the mind can see with clarity, and then we can move forward with better decision-making and working on those deeper roots of trauma. So the body does not work in isolation. So one organ does not work by itself. It’s dependent on other organs. So the same way that the physical body does not work isolated, the whole person does not work in isolation.
The physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects of us, the mindset, we’re all one. And so we are working with all these parts of who we are. So I want to talk about a couple of cases here, and I do this therapy called cranial sacral therapy, which I’m going to devote a whole episode to in the future to really help people understand what it is. But for today’s show, it is a light manual touch therapy, and there’s many different things that can benefit people from this. One of them is it can help the nervous system to regulate. It can help with physical pain, neurological issues, and so many different issues, but it’s really a whole body treatment and starting really a lot of it with the cranium, with the head. What I find is that through my training that I’ve done extensively over the last nine years, there are emotions that get stuck in a person’s body.
And so I’ve been trained to do some mental emotional release work, and I don’t necessarily initiate that in people. It’s their body that’s saying, I am ready to release that. And because I’ve been trained and I’ve been sensitive to feeling for all these years and thousands and thousands of treatments that I’ve given, I know when emotions are getting ready to come out of a person in a certain part of their body. And I can tell if my patient is back on releasing that emotion. So I have to guide them and they release that. Sometimes there’s no crying, sometimes there is crying. But the bottom line is they always feel better. Every single patient always says I feel so much lighter after that therapy. I feel like this weight of the world lifted off of me. Yeah, it’s all those emotions that you’ve been holding onto for years that were stuck in the body and now they’ve been released.
And there are many questions I get from this. And like I said, this is going to be devoted in the future to a whole conversation on this is why emotions get stuck and why can’t I release them myself. And I mean, if you could release them yourself, you would’ve let them go from the beginning. And the best thing to do is that when you feel an emotion when we feel an emotion, whether it’s sad, grief, whatever it is, that we just feel it and we write it out. But that’s not the way people live in life. We suppress, suppress, suppress, and it just gets stuck in our body until it’s ready to come out. Unfortunately, sometimes in unhealthy ways. And when you do release ’em in healthy ways, that’s really the best. So in working with patients, especially over the last year or two, I’ve seen something different than emotions come up.
So I have a patient laying there. I know when it’s an emotional release, but then I started to notice just some weird things going on in people’s bodies and things were being released. I was praying in my mind for them, I don’t know, is this person going to be okay with me praying for them? That was initially. Now I just pray because I know better the person is there and not realizing at the moment that there is deliverance happening there. Over the past year, I’ve had this ability to discern a lot more efficiently. And for those who don’t know what discernment means, some people call it intuition. I like to call it discernment. And here’s the definition. It means to understand or know something through the power of the Holy Spirit perception in the absence of judgment with the view to obtaining spiritual guidance and understanding.
So it’s not my knowledge, it’s not my wisdom, it’s God’s wisdom that’s being downloaded into me. There’s no way I could know that about this person unless it’s God giving me that information about that person. And that’s what started happening in my clinic last year. So one of the cases, and I’m not going to share details, to protect these individuals’ privacy, I had this person come in for the first time, and had a lot of psychiatric issues. I usually do not work with these types of cases, but something in my spirit said, help her. So I did. And this person sitting across from me, and immediately the Holy Spirit is telling me to protect my mind, to guard my mind, and to get ready to work on her. So I told her, I told this person, Hey, I know what we’re going to do.
Let’s do this therapy, and we start doing craniosacral therapy. Immediately she went into this resting state, which makes sense. That’s the key thing herself. Her body, and her brain was in a resting state. From there, what started to happen was there were some very odd movements in her abdomen and her body that I started to realize, wait a minute, there is something else here. And in my spirit, once again, I knew there were demons in this person. I had never done deliverance. I was not familiar even with the term deliverance. I was not familiar with any of this. I did not go to medical school to be trained for this. Definitely not. I was not trained anywhere. So in this moment, I am deeply praying in my spirit, God, Jesus, to help me right now. What do I do with this person? And Jesus started telling me, holy Spirit started guiding me and telling me what to do.
And it was one after another and after another. And I could feel these things leaving her. And then I would turn to her and ask, are you okay? What do you feel in your body? And she would tell me, I have something here. I have something in my neck or my mouth. And I knew that this was, once again, demons trying to control these parts of her body. So I started again to pray, to pray and do what I was being guided to do to deliver her. And then after that, she was like a completely different person. The person who walked in and the person who left, very, very different that even my assistant noticed. Her continence was different, her appearance was different. And when she left, she said, you know what? More hospitals and psychiatric hospitals need to do what you’re doing here because this is what I needed there.
This person was hearing voices, demonic voices torturing her. She was having conversations with these demons. And after that, I continued to work with her. I did a couple more deliverances for her to completely make sure that these were out. And yes, the Holy Spirit was brought through her to feel her in the moment as these things come out because we know if the house is empty, the demons come back. So she was filled with the Holy Spirit and walked her through accepting Jesus. Not the typical things that you do in a medical clinic. I understand and I understand risk. I understand the consequences of doing something like that is risky. But I, Anna would have never in my mind said, this is what I’m going to do. That was led by the Holy Spirit and because Holy Spirit was leading me in that moment to do this, there was protection over me.
This woman needed it, and she wanted to be healed from this completely, completely different person who she is now. And it’s a process of working through this. So is she evil? Was she wrong? Was she a bad person that she attracted this? No. This is all brought by trauma through childhood. And this is what people need to understand, that when a person has demons or they’re demon-influenced or oppressed, it’s sometimes it’s not because they’re doing witchcraft or they’re doing bad things. It’s trauma. When children have sexual trauma, sexual abuse, and physical abuse, their souls are fractured. And this opens up the door for demons to come in and influence them. When we are weak, when we’re in pain, it is very easy for people to be influenced. This is when typically children do not know they’re attacked in this way. And so I’ve seen many different cases.
Another case is a man who had a lot of physical symptoms, cardiac, and digestive issues, went to numerous specialists and doctors, they did extensive blood work and imaging and testing and everything was normal. They said you’re fine. You’re a healthy man. And he was like, but I don’t feel well. I feel my heart. Something’s wrong with my heart and I have digestive issues and can’t leave my house. A lot of issues. And these are things that with this situation, it was a building a relationship first. And when I did deliverance on him, all of those issues were gone. There was no reason for even herbs or natural things. This person was eating healthy, was moving their body, but there was something there, and it was all rooted in childhood trauma. So that childhood trauma, that there needed to be this spiritual deliverance for him to release that.
And then there’s a process. This is where I really believe that working with the right mental health expert counselor therapist is really important because then they help to alleviate, to work out those other things in a more cognitive way where this is working more on the physical and spiritual level. Hey, I know this is a lot, and I know this is not your typical conversation that your doctor’s going to have, but I just want to say I feel very blessed to be in this position that God has put me here even through medical school because it gives me this wider perspective of seeing the person as a whole, seeing them from the spiritual component and not being afraid to talk about that spiritual aspect about who you are. The physical understanding, the physical, mental, emotional, and all the medical conditions that can contribute to illness are very important.
So I feel like I am in a unique situation. I would pray that more nature paths would have the courage to also do the same because you’re going to see your patients drastically improve a lot better. It’s a process. Healing is a process. It takes time. And when you are willing to go through that process, every time you go through a healing opportunity, you start to see the benefit and you love how you feel after while you’re doing the healing. It is a very uncomfortable, very icky, very painful situation to go through. But like I said, if you’re working with the right people, they will help you get through that. And there’s releasing any shame, any guilt, any of those emotions, and really working on forgiveness is super important. Imagine how many people with cancer need to work on the emotional stuff and forgiveness. It’s not to blame themselves that they’ve caused this cancer, but it’s the lack of us not knowing this information that is making us sick.
And so this podcast is designed to give you knowledge, and different perspectives so that you can make sense of this yourself and go and apply it for yourself and get the right help. So the takeaway from today is really find the root cause of your healing, find the root cause so that you can heal on a much deeper level. I believe now after seeing so many cases of these coming to me where there isn’t a true physical illness, it’s a spiritual, it’s a trauma root cause. My belief is that almost all conditions most likely do have a spiritual root cause. And this is the area that many people, tippy toe around it or completely avoid conversation. And I pray that you have the courage to dive deep into this part of who you are and start developing a relationship with God because you’re going to find that the only person that can really, the only way that you can get true healing is from God himself. Another quote I found that I’ve always liked is that trauma can be passed down from generation to generation, but so can healing. So it doesn’t matter what trauma has been passed down to you, you can heal and you can pass that healing on to your children, onto your grandchildren and future generations that you may never ever meet, right? So we’re going to step into the segment of the good, the bad, and the ugly about our sick care medical system because what it is
Today, I’m actually going to talk about something good. The good thing about our medical system is surgery. Emergency medicine is one of the best in this country. We have such advanced technology in hospitals now that a lot of those surgeries are done robotically, and so it minimizes the time of surgery and it’s more efficient so there are fewer errors. And so there are good things in our medical system, and the technology that’s used in surgery is one of them. Hey, I want to thank you for joining me today. I know I talked a lot today on topics that are probably uncomfortable for you, but they’re very important for us to talk about and we will be having more of these conversations. So tuned, stay tuned to our next episode. I’m going to be talking about, guys, I’m going to be talking about something that we so desperately need in our society, in our world today. So you do not want to miss this conversation. It is deep, it is very philosophical, very spiritual and emotional. So stay tuned for that conversation. Hey everyone, I want to thank you, and as always, stay blessed. Thank you for listening to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast. If you like what you’ve heard, please like, share, and subscribe, help this message, and reach more people who may need to hear it. Leave your comments. I want to know what you think. If you’re interested in learning more about Raices, visit our website. Until next time, be blessed.