Welcome to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast empowering you to take a whole-person approach to your well-being, spirit, soul, and body. Join me your host, Dr. Ana Lara, a naturopathic doctor, entrepreneur, and a servant of Jesus Christ. We are not just a body, we are spirit and soul. It’s time to integrate medicine and spirituality into our healing. Let’s get started. Welcome back to Physician Heal Self, the podcast. I’m your host, Dr. Ana Lara. And today we’re going to have a real talk with a real friend of mine. I’m going to introduce her here in a little bit, but we’re going to talk about our walk with Christ and what that really looks like. And you’re probably thinking, why are we having this conversation on this podcast? Because I truly believe that it is important that we are honest, that we’re open, honest, and transparent and real with ourselves and the world around us.
In order for us to maintain good physical health, mental health, and spiritual health, and at any time that we are not able to be who we are in the environments that we’re in, guess what? It causes disease and it causes dysfunction and it causes disorder in us and in our relationships. So this is a dear friend of mine. I hope it’s okay for me to say also because she became a patient of mine during COVID-19 and since then we’ve been friends, we’re sisters in Christ, and I want to welcome my dear friend, Kimberly Brooks. Hi. So we’re going to keep this as a conversation. The reason we’re having this conversation is that several months back, I don’t even remember the question that you posted on Facebook, but what I do remember is how I felt when you asked that question. It was raw, it was real. You were authentically seeking what other people’s opinions were and I was in shock at how many people didn’t answer the question.
You too.
Now, I’m trying to remember the question.
I don’t remember the remember the exact question, but it had to do with how to live life as a Christian and maybe being authentic or real, how to deal with these issues. Can we have a conversation about that man? And I said, let’s talk.
Yes, that is where it started to feel like I want to look up that question, but it’s okay because one of the things is that I hear a lot of assumptions from people who are not Christians who say, oh, well Christians think they have it all figured out and they’re right, but they do this wrong and they’re sitting there wrong. And that’s not true. The only between a believer in Christ and someone who doesn’t believe in Christ is that we know we need Jesus every day, all day. That part minute that we’re going to fall minute.
Sometimes by minute, amen. Step by step, with each word we say, we know we need him in our life, where the non-believer thinks, I got it. I’m good. Do y’all know how many times I’ve tried, tried to, I need nobody something on my own, and wound up hurting myself? I don’t think there’s enough raw conversation about what this really looks like. There’s not. So I was raised, and we started going to church when I was nine. I was raised in a Baptist church in a middle-class neighborhood and lived down the street from one of the pastors and his family. And I grew up in the era of what goes on in this house stays in this house, in this house. So when you go to church, it looks like everybody’s family is perfect and you’ve now got this perception like, dude, there’s something wrong with my family. Everybody else is good. But it starts there. You start getting a wrong perception at a very early age, and then you get out into the world. There are so many other perspectives coming at you. People think that they have to be perfect A to come to Christ. Number two, they think they have to do it by themselves. Number three, they think that once you come to Christ, all of your problems just magically disappear.
And those couldn’t be further. It’s just not true. It’s not the one thing I wrote for this conversation. I did not prepare a whole lot. I wanted it to really be just authentic in the morning in the moment I said Jesus didn’t come for perfection. He came to help people to repent, to turn away from their sins, to start a transformation in their lives, and to have an intimate and genuine relationship with God. He already knows everything about us. He knows what’s in our hearts. He knows what’s in our minds. Well, he knows those thoughts we have about ourselves and others.
He was there when you did it. Let me just be real. He was there when we were in the midst of sin of our crazy. He saw it all. And as you said, he’s a gentleman. He’s a gentleman. He knocks on the door and waits for you to answer. And he’s so graceful. He’s very graceful. So, no, that’s myth number one. You do not have to be perfect. He wants you to come in your brokenness so that he can show himself to you if you come. Perfect. What is the need to even have Christ?
Yeah.
What kind of life is that? I think it’s difficult just in general; I think people generalize things. They want to paint everything in a whole group using the same color. And so when they look at Christians, I see all sorts of Christians because we’re all individuals, right?
We’re each created differently. That was another part of it, too. Growing up, you see people praying a certain way and doing certain things and you think that you are supposed to do that when God didn’t. God may have put that in that person, but that is not for you. And it’s okay. I think authenticity is a requirement, but if I dare say, I don’t think God can really do what God does when you’re not real with yourself or those around you.
Thank you for saying that. I think that’s one of the things that I always struggled with in general especially even recently. And I feel like sometimes those are lies of the devil. And yet sometimes people do in certain environments, they may make you feel like this is the way we all do it and you’re different and so something’s wrong with you or you’re not as godly. I always have felt like I don’t pray, I don’t worship the way other people do. They might think I’m not into it, and they couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s like my silence, my stillness is actually driving me into this place much deeper that I don’t want to show.
I don’t care to show that part.
It’s not a show.
It’s not a show.
It’s not a performance. And even so, more with me, I really have to, that’s embedded in me because I’m a worship leader.
Yeah, you are. You’re an amazing man.
Thank you. It’s all God.
She had an amazing voice. She sings beautifully.
That has been my weapon, though, and I have battled it out on the stage of my church for goodness, 11 years. That’s where I battle it out. That’s my weapon. That’s your weapon.
And just because that’s my weapon does not mean that that’s her weapon.
It’s not my weapon.
And that’s important to know what your gift is. What are you called to do? What is your weapon? Because I do see that worship people who sing through worship, worshiping, and singing that is a weapon. And there’s a prophetic piece to that as well. And some people can pray. And I always say there’s healing in many different ways. And there’s more than one purpose.
There’s more than purpose. There’s more than one calling.
Just because I’m a worship leader does not mean that that’s all there is.
And even within the worship, if, say, you’re part of the worship team, every single person in that group is going to have a uniqueness.
Yes.
It’s like a soup. And when you make a soup, you add all these ingredients, you can’t have the same things. It’d be so boring. So no, everyone that I have the honor of serving with, everybody brings something different, which is what cultivates the experiences that we have.
I love adversity and I like to respect all uniquenesses. I have friends of all ages, of all walks of life, of all religions, of all different types. And I like it that way. I couldn’t see myself with people just like me or people who are just a certain way.
Doesn’t it bust what you saw growing up?
It completely busts it all. This is why I won’t go to an all-Hispanic church. I can’t. I can’t. My grandmother, I get it. Even if it’s a Christian Church, they get very religious, and it reminds me of the Catholic. Now, look, I dress up decent for the most part, but this is my comfort zone. A T-shirt and just some sweatpants or something is my comfort zone. Yeah, I got my bling on and things like that. But really, it depends on my mood. And so my Latina females, they like to dress it up a lot. They’re fancy with what they wear and their makeup. It’s extravagant and loud, and the hair and the high, that’s what heels are comfortable in, and that’s who they are. And I respect that.
That’s the thing, Kim, I’m okay with being in a group like that. I respect that. But I feel the judgment. I feel that judgment. So I don’t care what you’re saying. I don’t care what you’re acting like.
God gave me the gift to see the lies of people, to hear almost their thoughts. You and I relate on that. I’m very sensitive to that. So I could feel the judgment of women. She’s dressed up.
Yeah, my grandmother, they don’t even know me. So I told you I grew up, and the church I went to was black. I remember when I had moved away from Phoenix for about 13 years, and I came back, and of course I naturally was like, okay, well, let me go back to the church I was raised in. I remember walking in, and it just felt like you said people were just looking down at you and it’s like you can feel the judgment that is such, I don’t like that. It’s an ugly feeling. And I didn’t go back to the church after that. And I remember my grandmother asking because she wanted us all to continue to go. She’s like, why don’t you go there anymore? I didn’t want to make it where she didn’t make it.
You don’t want to make a scene.
That part, I was like, grandma, that church is just not for me. And that’s okay.
That is completely okay.
I’ll say I’ll be very honest and authentic. I stopped attending church in 2005 because of all of these subtle things that were happening that made me feel this way. I stopped attending church, and I remember telling my husband that I felt better when I was not there. That’s not where God is at.
It’s not supposed to feel like that.
And for many years until 2021, when Pastor Brian walked into my life, that’s when I started going back to church. That’s a long time without going to church and being in a relationship with other people who think of life.
Did you have the thought that I don’t need church to have a relationship with God? Because I did.
Absolutely. And that’s the reason that kept me from going to church I felt like I didn’t need the church. I have a relationship with God, and I’m listening, I’m reading and I do this and I feel good. However, through Covid, the Lord kept telling me, you need to find your community. You need to find your tribe. And I was like, no Lord, it’s just me and you, we’re good. But he kept telling me I needed to find a community. And that’s when Pastor Brian walked into my office and then from there, I’m like, this is a Pastor. I got to go check out his church.
He doesn’t seem like a pastor. The traditional pastor that I had experienced. And that’s what God was doing at that moment: okay, you’re not going to go to find a church. Well, I’m going to send it to you. That is so dope. He sent me the church and he literally sent me the church to me. And so that drew me. And he never told me, to come to my church. He never said you should go to. He never said any of that. But you know what it was his presence he loved that was inviting into the kingdom.
It was his presence that was inviting. That made me curious. Let me go. That is what an apostle does.
Yes, that’s exactly what happened. They go into places that people are attracted to. What does he do? Let me check this out. And they draw you in without telling you verbally.
He’s as real and raw as a person he could ever, ever be. And how ironic that I’m saying that. So, if I can share a little bit, a lot of my testimony. So before I came to the church that we’re in now, I was like you. I had a run-in with a church back in Tucson that just it didn’t sit well with me. Fast forward, I was not spending time in a church home. I got in trouble with the law. I was definitely living a different lifestyle. I was with a woman. Let’s keep it real. That’s why we’re here. Once I got in trouble with the law, I couldn’t find a job in Tucson. My family was still here in Phoenix, so I had to reach out here, move up here, turn my sister’s living room into my studio, got the job out here. Then she’s my ex now.
But the woman that I had been with, I was with her for eight years. Her job moves us her up here. We have a beautiful three-bedroom, two-bathroom home in Tuke at the base of the mountain. I could reach my hand outside our gated backyard and touch the bottom of the mountain. Two cars. We had everything. And it was her best friend. They’d been best friends for years. So, I never crossed that boundary. But she was going to this church, and she told my ex about it, and she’s like, you need to tell Kim to come. So my ex kept telling me she was after me for a good three months. We need to go. So finally, on Easter, I went to a service, and I have not looked back. I immediately got involved, I knew that was home, so I got involved in the choir and then Pastor B started doing my hair. Now, I wore my hair as short as his.
Yeah. It was very short. And I very am going somewhere with this. I promise I was very anal with my hair, everything. My hair had to be in place later on. It took Brian’s wife to tell me that the only thing that I had control over was my hair. But let alone Brian was doing my hair. Brian is the one who convinced me to grow my, so I feel like Samson a little bit here. My story is in my hair. In your hair. But no, he did exactly that. He loved me. Not once did this man ever judge me. And it was the entire church where you could just feel that unconditional love. And God did his job of convicting me out of that relationship and moving forward. Today, I am married to my wonderful husband of a year and a half. Now.
I wouldn’t go back with any of it.
Two things that walking into that space is unique: that church, because I remember walking into the river and this was different. It was diverse. It is just different. I had never been to a church like that. Me either. And so that’s where I was saying the mistake that we make just as individuals is to think I’m okay. It’s just me and you. God, I don’t need the church. That’s the mistake I made. Because what I should have done was, yeah, walk away from that church. That was not healthy for me but find a new one. I stopped there. I didn’t go find a new one. I was so burnt from it. And so that’s where I wish I would’ve taken a different turn. But things happened for a reason. The timing, everyone has a testimony. There’s not a That was bad. That was my story. That was my journey because from 2005 to 2021, a long time.
It’s a long time.
There was a lot of growth and development. I was doing it on my own and I had the influence of someone else. It would’ve been different. I think I was a little stubborn on relying on myself, my own understanding. I’m a problem solver. I’m going to get it. And so when my health declined, doctors couldn’t help me. So I was leaning on God for help me God. And it brought this closeness with me and God, that relationship became closer and closer. I was crawling on my knees.
That’s real.
To find him and get help. It was like a very humble
Check this out, though too.
I was torn up.
They tell you that it takes a village to raise a child. It takes a village to walk in Christ. We’re not made to do any of this alone by ourselves. We were created for a relationship.
Now I want to get into bringing it something that we talked about and we’re like, yeah, where are you at with that? Because you talk about how you were in a relationship with another woman, a lesbian relationship, and then you find yourself here at this church and you find yourself changing. Was there what was a moment like when you realized this is not what God wants for me? Or what was that like?
Oh my gosh. Okay.
So I am going to be honest in saying that the entire time that I was with her, I knew, I knew that this was not it. I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but I knew that this was not it for me. My parents did do the right thing by planting the seed of God in me, right?
Yeah, of course.
We go our way when we’re young, we do whatever craziness. But it felt like I was on a roller coaster, and I just did not know when to get off. And I remember telling Brian that that man became my walking diary. He knows all of that. So, as I’m now really getting involved with this church, Brian is doing my hair. People are just pouring love into me. I could feel God, nobody else, no one else telling me that I don’t need to be. Nobody else is judging me. Everybody is literally just loving me through this. They literally let God do what God does. I could feel convicted as I wanted to get to know Christ more as I craved for God. I then got the feeling I had to put it up to Holy Spirit, just walking me through this. This is not for you. This is not where you’re supposed to be. And I’ll never forget that Sunday. So I went. The first service I went to at the river was in April or August. I went home one Sunday after church, and I ended it. I can remember praying in my car outside of our home. God, get me out of this. I don’t care about the material stuff that’ll come later. I want to be with you. And not in that way. I wanted to live the Christ Life.
I don’t want this anymore. I know this is not of you. And I’m telling you, within four months, he did a work. Now, we wound up parting ways in that October, and I couldn’t just get up and leave. You still have to do things the right way. I still had financial obligations. I moved into a different bedroom in the home and conducted my life differently. And was it hard? Yeah, it was probably one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. I was with this woman for nine years. That’s a long time. You become accustomed to life like, oh my gosh, what am I going to do without this? It’s hard just because you come to Christ and you begin to walk in that walk, it does not mean that temptation goes away. This is the nitty gritty. It does not mean that at all. Now, there are some people where he can take the taste of cigarettes away from people, but it may not be for you. God can do anything. But people have this perception, oh, life is going to be perfect from here.
No, it takes work. It’s a process. I’m still tempted, but I now know who fought my battles for me before Christ died, like you said, we were doing it in our own strength. And what are we doing? Most of the time, we’re failing.
We’re failing.
But now on this side of Christ, on this side of the walk, that temptation comes. I can instantly call him I Jesus to help me fight that battle.
Now let’s go even deeper.
Here we go. Yes.
Because we talk on and off about these things and you’re very honest. That’s one of the things I appreciate about you. You’re very honest. You’re like, you said, I’m not going to lie. I still get tempted sometimes.
Yes, Absolutely.
So you’re still the clay, you’re still a work in process.
Absolutely. Until the day we die. Till the day he calls us home. We’re going to be learning every single day to say, you’re not learning anything anymore to say that you’ve conquered God, and I don’t want that. Yeah.
Yeah. I think it’s very difficult. I mean, we see a lot of things on social media and the talks about distractions, about what this church is doing, what that pastor’s doing and so forth and all of that. And there are some good and bad things in all of that mix. But one of the things that I do agree is that the word of God should be spoken as it is, period. We cannot, we’re nobody to change. It is that everybody takes, it’s the word in their way. It’s what now as Christians, can I drink water?
You can drink water. You have to lubricate those in your mouth. But we have to speak the word. It is what it is. It’s crucial. That’s the truth.
Yes.
And when we modify the truth because we don’t want to hurt people’s feelings and we’re in the wrong, I love what you said. I love what you said. You went to the church the river, and people loved you. There was no judgment or criticism. And that is healthy with a healthy church. Matter of fact, lemme take that further. She came with me and was sitting right there with us. And I’ve heard them say it usually happens that one person stays and the other one falls out. But she came with me for the first probably couple of months. She was there with me.
Did she continue the lifestyle?
Yes.
Yeah, she did.
Can we get real about that girl? Okay, here we go. Let’s do it. I fought. It was a fight for about. I came here, and I came to the church in April 2013. I would say it was probably six months before my husband came home and I married him. That is how long that fight was to let her go. I thought that was the fight on your end or her end. It was mine. Yep. We got to be real. Now that I look back, it was mine. It was yours.
You still
Had
Feelings.
Yes.
The temptation was still there, right? Did you ever dig deep? And why are these feelings there? What are the feelings? Where are they coming from? I’m so glad you asked this question.
Oh my gosh, let’s put it out there that sin is sin, period. It’s us here on earth. It’s the man that always makes one sin worse than the other. Blah, blah, blah. And God’s eyes. Sin is sin, right? So let’s go a little bit deeper than that. At the end of the day, there is a need that is not being fulfilled and we’re going to the wrong place to fulfill it. That’s what it boils down to. Whether it’s homosexuality, it’s the same as drug addiction. Men sleeping with multiple women, keep it real drug, all of that. There is a need not being met. So we’re going to something other than God to have that need met. It’s a void that needs to be filled, that’s empty. It’s unspoken.
Most of the time. We talked about this in my office, where I said, well, overindulging in food is a sin, too. But we justify that. And usually, when we have drug and food addictions or any addiction or any sin, there is a void. So we have to search within ourselves or have God help us search our hearts. Where’s this void? Why is it there? Where do I feel abandoned? Where do I feel the need for love? Where did this start from? And oftentimes, you could. You trace it back. It’s in your childhood. Mine was childhood. It’s always childhood.
For sure.
Yeah. There’s always something in your childhood that happens.
Y’all, the devil’s been after me. The devil has been after my voice since I was a little girl. I can tell you if things were, my life was almost taken out by authoritative figures.
I don’t want to put anybody out there on the spot by authoritative figures in my life. I remember being darn near choked to death literally by someone who loved me. So Satan’s been after me. So yeah, it does stem. And now that you’ve really got me thinking now, now that you’ve asked me that I was always looking for one particular, authoritative figure to love and accept me for who I was. My grandmother will be the person to tell you that I had a horrible childhood. So now fast forwarding to that person that I was with, I think she gave me what I was looking for in my mother. Gosh darn you. She sure did. She did.
Yeah.
So yeah, I was looking for that. So then fast forward to where I’m still in that fight, I really thought that if I thought that I could still be her friend, oh, I got this. I’m strong enough. I really thought. Then covid hit, we were familiar to each other. It took for my spiritual parents to get whiff of what was going on. And I’m met my husband then. We weren’t married at that time, but it was something that was definitely being talked about. He was at a different address. So I also thought I could get away with murder. Let me keep it real.
Okay.
Thought that I could handle it. And they called me out gracefully. This is where that village comes in. They called me out gracefully. They called me out with love. And I was like, okay, yep, nope. In order for me to really get through this, I’m going to have to let go all
Together. So that’s very key. Just in general, there are relationships that God does want you to completely exit out.
Yes.
You’re not supposed to go back to that. Nope. Even in a relationship, that man and woman that is toxic. I’ve seen this so many times where women will separate from this abusive, toxic husband. And then here he comes on bent knee with flowers, chocolates, and jewelry, begging to come back after so many years of being gone. And they fall for that. And then they come in thinking he’s changed. And it’s head back to the same thing. So when one door closes, it’s supposed to stay closed. You should keep going.
Let me add to that, though. When God is closing one door, I promise you he’s going to fill it.
He sure is.
I’ve had to let go of friends that I was friends with for years. These girls know where the skeletons in my closet are. They know. They knew I had to let them go.
Not everybody is meant to go with people. And here’s a thing too, because sometimes people might see this and hear this and think like, well that’s not Christian. Well, no, you need to keep yourself healthy mentally and spiritually in that process. We can end a relationship and pray for them that God take care of your child, that they heal.
You can still love on God. You don’t stop loving or caring about the person you don’t wish bad about them. I think that’s the difference between a healthy separation versus a toxic one because there are a lot of toxic things that happen, and they talk about each other in a negative way. And that doesn’t help you and it doesn’t help that person either. You want to pray for your enemies. I don’t like the word enemy and not selfishly.
Lemme throw that out there. Not in a negative way. Pray for good things to happen for them. You’re going to pray for them what you want for yourself.
And you know what I find is that when you pray for those who’ve offended you or from those who you’ve separated from, you pray for them, you wish them blessings, and you will be blessed with peace in that process. I’ll tell you this. I had someone early in my practice, it was a patient who I was very compassionate, very accommodating to this person I wanted to help. And after a period of time, this turned on me, got really nasty and I wasn’t afraid. I know who protects me. I wasn’t afraid. But this person was constantly harassing me through messages, leaving me creepy messages, my office voicemail and sending me emails.
Interesting.
I’m pretty sure she left a review on my Google. You guys can go read it. I feel like I should go find this. You could go find it. It was like she was trying to kill me. I mean, she was trying to come at my character and come at me, and I didn’t see, didn’t see, at the beginning, the demonic influence behind all that. I had my rose-colored glasses on. And so the first time that she was aggressive with me and I stopped and there was a fear in me, but the Lord was quick to stop me there. You know what he told me? I remember exactly where I was at. I was driving to my office. I was on McDonald’s 12th Street.
That’s how precise I know where I was. When the Lord dropped a message in me and said, do not be afraid. I put you there and no one’s going to remove you. See, I said, that is the voice of my father. He’s saying, don’t worry of someone threatening you to do these harmful things. No one is going to remove you from there because he put me there.
I have so many testimonies of that, that when I feel there’s a threat, the father steps in and shields and says, Hey, remember I put you there.
It’s that peace beyond understanding that comes over you too. Yeah. It’s like you didn’t put yourself there in that manner. That woman didn’t put you there. I put you there.
And this is why I do this podcast because I feel that protection that we need to speak into have these conversations. But you know what I did was I started praying for this woman, God heal your daughter. She needs healing. She needs mental healing. She needs physical healing and she needs spiritual healing, Lord, that she help her see your face, that she has a relationship with you, protect her family, protect her children, that no harm come her way. And I kept praying into her and she kept, every once in a while, she would surface and something would come up where she would attack me. And then I got a bunch of people to pray for her. I said, I can’t do it alone. I’m going to get the tribe. And I would say, pray for this person and pray for her this way. Then it’s been like two years and nothing.
I genuinely want her to heal. I pray that all is well with her.
I genuinely wanted her to heal, but her unhealthy side was coming across as ugly. And I know how I am. But that’s also where you recognize that it was the enemy.
It was the enemy.
When God puts you someplace, the enemy is always trying to come
And separate from. And our weaknesses are. I posed a question. This was the question. I posed a question on my social media several weeks ago. And there were, what weapons does the enemy use against us, and what is his strategy? I want my audience to know that I got about 20 responses, all of which were because I equally presented this question to both men and women. And I only got responses from women.
Interesting
Men are fighters. I was like, why, God, why didn’t I get a response from not one male about that question? I’m talking about war tactics. Interestingly, I wore this today and listening to God’s army and we did not coordinate this at all. I am really interested. If we can really understand the weapons he uses and his strategy, then we can also work on our end to be aware that this is what he’s using. And if we can learn strategically to use his own weapons against him, oh, this is good. Then we shield it’s war. It’s a strategy.
I remember my answer was the mind.
The mind. So, I gathered a lot of information. I prayed and meditated on this. And lies is the weapon he uses. And lies is a broad category of different approaches he can take. It can be distracting you, it can be manipulating you. It could be confusing you with your gender. The lie is a lie, and it can be presented in many different ways. But that is the weapon he uses. And the way for us to arm ourselves with the weapon is to arm ourselves with God’s word, with his truth. That is the truth offsets the lie.
Can I give him an example of what that looks like?
Absolutely.
So like I said, we’re always tempted. Temptations do not just suddenly cease, right? So, I learned this from big brother Ron. Everything starts with a thought, which is in your mind. And there are two actions that can go one way or the other. You’re going to either keep feeding that thought until it becomes overwhelming or it becomes an action that rolls on. Or we now know just by calling on the name of Jesus, what that looks like for me, if I have to say it 50,000 times in my mind until that thought literally goes away, and if I have to repeat it, sometimes the thoughts will come back. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, I need you to do this. I can’t do this by myself.
That is literally what it looks like for me. I don’t have to fight that battle on my own.
So it moves on. We’re going to move on to the next thing about the weapon is the lie, the weapon that he uses is the lie and the strategy is what you’re saying. It is the mind. It’s the mind and the emotions too. Because the mind is, I always explain to my patients the mind is fertile soil. Whatever you plant there is what’s going to grow. So you need to be careful what you’re planting into the soil. If you don’t want it to grow, you got to stop it.
You got to pull those weeds out. So if you’re always in fear, think about what happened in Covid in 20 20, 20 21. Gosh, the fear. The fear, the fear. You’re going to get this illness, you’re going to die, you’re going to get COVID, you’re going to die, you’re going to get it. You’re going to die. You’re going to kill other people. If you don’t get this vaccine, you’re going to kill other people. It was constantly in our faces. Even I am not looking at the news. I took myself off of social media from May 2020 till October 2020.
I was done. But somehow, what was going on out there it was coming in through my patients and through other people that I was communicating with. So that messaging was coming through and that’s exactly the battle that we’re fighting right now and into the future. It’s going to be in the mind. You already hear, I’ve seen so many scientists talking about the technology. We’re going to probably give the technology that’s being used for mind control. And I know this because it’s real. There are things that I think about, I don’t even say, and my phone will pick it up and then I’m getting ads about it.
My husband and I had that conversation the other day. I’m not even speaking this out loud. How is it coming up?
So the technology is there, and there are a lot of the sciences they’re talking about. The technology is there where they’re able to read your thoughts through what’s out there. And they’re able to put this information then out there. So if they’re accessing our thoughts, now they have technology where they can analyze a person’s dream, and it’ll give the visual of what they were dreaming.
So if they’re developing these things, who’s not to say that It’s not just information that’s going out but information that’s coming in.
So our good pastor, pastor Brian, used to say, be careful what you listen to.
Be careful what you see. Also, be careful what you see, what you hear, what you’re telling yourself, and what you’re reading.
It’s real.All of those things are going to influence your mind. And the mind is the terrain where you’re going to fight the battle. And so that’s the strategy he uses is he Remember that. That saying the devil, however you want to call him, I don’t really care to him a name, that the strategy he uses is very subtle. It’s not big and loud. It’s a whisper. Some of it will include truth, which is a well-twisted truth. So here’s the thing. Sometimes, it comes as a whisper and it sounds like, hey, you’re fat and ugly. You’re not smart. You can’t do that. Who do you think you are? If you try to do that podcast, you’re going to fail. They’re going to make fun of you. You’re going to have so many people criticizing you. They’re going to be judging you. They’re going to come attack you. You’re not good enough. And it starts a little whisper. And then we hear the whisper. We feel the emotion. We keep thinking about it. The emotion gets bigger, the thought gets bigger, the emotion gets bigger. The thought gets even bigger. Now it starts to show in how we live our life. That’s where we start to take action. Well, I’m just going to eat this box of Twinkies because I’m fat anyway and I’m ugly. Can we get real? That’s where people are.
And y’all see I tearing up just a little bit.
Real women. Women will be looking at their faces. I got this wrinkle in this. I got to go get Botox so I can look perfect and my chin and this and I got to do this. And that is where women lose the battle. We’re so stuck in how we look, and this body is going to die. But if you know who God created you to be, he designed you to be a beautiful person inside and out. And the message and the gift that you have is inside of us. You get to a point where you tell that voice to shut up. I literally, I
Do this saying: get behind me. I do. This was like, dude, shut up. I literally say it like that in my mind like, dude, shut up. You have to. And then I go back. You have to silence that. When we just talked about the producer who helps me with my podcast. We were just talking about this before we got here.
About how many women get self-conscious of being here. And I told him, Hey Bill, Bill is an amazing guy. He’s amazing. And I said, you know what, Bill? I tell myself all the time it doesn’t matter what I look like on camera, it’s what I’m saying, it’s the message, it’s the content. My goal, my purpose, is to wake people up, educate them, shake them up, give them strategies so they can go out there and fight. Fight for themselves, fight for their family, whether it’s in natural or whether it’s spiritual. And that’s what this conversation is about. Being Christian is not an easy walk. I don’t even like to call myself a Christian anymore.
Jesus didn’t call himself a Christian.
No, I told you that. Do we part two think we need a part two? We might. But I was telling you the other day that the word Christian was used as a derogatory term to refer to people who are following Christ. And so what people, the followers of Jesus Christ, what they call themselves, were followers of the way. Love that.
Image bearers because we aren’t image bearers of the king.
Yeah. I call myself a warrior, God’s warrior.
I love it.
And I would rather do that. It’s not the title, it’s not what’s in the name. Not every Christian is perfect, but no human is perfect. And that’s why, regardless of what side of the fence you’re on, just be kind to each other is really, and whether you’re Christian or not, like I said, there’s that importance of being genuine with yourself and hearing God. Because I have these conversations with a lot of people who are part of the LGBT community and I have friends and I respect them. I don’t don’t want to ever hurt anyone’s feelings, but we do have to be realistic and say that this is not the way God intended men and women to live. It’s even just taking the religious part out of it. If you look at biology, if everyone was gay and everyone was lesbian, society would deal with it.
Without the intervention of science, we would cease to exist because there’s no way that we can procreate that part.
And I am not going to judge someone’s sin because I have my own. I’m worried about me. But if someone asks me, where do I stand on this? I’m going to say, this is God’s word. It’s there.
That’s all you do.
But I’m not anyone to judge you.
I’m going to love you still. Yep. I’m still, I’m still going to be kind to you. That part. My job is to love you. I’m not here to do God’s job. He’s the judge, not me. I just want to love you. Me showing my characters, showing you who God is, just by me loving you and loving you where you are.
That’s important. Meeting people where they’re at. Even as a doctor, I do that. Like, okay, this person’s not going to change their diet completely. I know they’re not.
That makes me wonder what you’re thinking. Let’s just go the tortillas in the soda for now. For now. That’s where I start with some people. That’s what have to do. Start with that one. Now.
I had a man who was eating 20 tortillas each meal. And I said, okay, let’s do two or three per meal. Let’s start there. That’s a lot of tortillas.
Yeah. I’m like, let’s just do two or three per meal instead of six a day. Let’s just do six a day. And he agreed to that. So when he came back several months later, he was like, it was hard, but I did it. And so we’re going to keep doing that. So you got to meet people where you’re at, where they’re at without judgment. And you have to be patient, graceful, and merciful. People aren’t going to grow if you are anything but, Kim, what are some ending remarks that you would want to share with people when it comes to just being real with yourself? And whether you are walking with Christ or you’re not, what would you want to tell those individuals? Or maybe someone who’s struggling with homosexuality.
That real healing is not going to start until you can be real with yourself.
I’m going to leave it at that.
What if that person says, but my desire to want to be with a woman is my authentic self or my desire to be, say, me as a woman, my desire to be a man is my authentic self. How does a person separate what they think? Because if they’re clouded from thinking straight, how do you invite them?
See, this is another podcast. It’s, it’s a whole nother okay to be, but let me say this. All I can iterate is how much God loves you. It is not my job to make the decision for you. Just know that God loves you. God created you, and I’m going to dare you. I’m going to double dog, dare you. Talk to God one time. Talk to God one time and see what happens in that conversation. Seek him. Our only responsibility on the face of this earth is to seek God. He does the rest.
Thank you, Ms. Kim. Welcome to joining me today. Welcome. Well, folks, as we wrap up this episode, we were all over the place, but it was a lot of great stuff. There is no perfect human on this earth, really, whether you’re Christian, Muslim or whatever you refer to yourself or whatever walk of life you’re in, there’s absolutely no perfect person that’s walking on this earth. And that’s why we need God. We are children who sometimes misbehave, and our good father is always going to correct us until we get into his kingdom. So I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. Until next time, be blessed. Thank you for listening to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast. If you like what you’ve heard, please like, share and subscribe, help this message, and reach more people who may need to hear it. Leave your comments. I want to know what you think. If you’re interested in learning more about Raices, visit our website. Until next time, be blessed.