EP20: Unmasking to Get to the Real YOU, So You Can Heal Part 2

Emotions and healing

Join the conversation with Dr. Lara and Jacinda Garner from Soul Prompt to learn more about getting real with your emotions in a healthy balanced way. Emotions can be big, loud and overwhelming during stressful situations; and learning to heal and be able to feel and express emotions in a healthy manner creates healthy relationships with others. Emotions are signals of something going on inside and outside of yourself. You don’t want to miss this conversation on emotional health and wellness. Learn some ways on how to regulate and process emotions. This is a two-part series.

Podcast Episode 20 Transcript

Welcome to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast empowering you to take a whole-person approach to your wellbeing, spirit, soul, and body. Join me your host, Dr. Alara, natureopathic, doctor, entrepreneur, and a servant of Jesus Christ. We are not just a body. We are spirit and soul. It’s time to integrate medicine and spirituality into our healing. Let’s get started. Welcome back to Physician Heal By Self, the podcast. I’m your host, Dr. Ana Lara, and joining me again for this episode is Jacinda Garner with Sole Prompt. So we’re going to continue our conversation from last week where we’re talking about emotions and we’re going to get into the practical side of it. So welcome back. Thank you. We’re continuing this conversation like we never left because we did it, but this conversation can go on for hours. Hours. I know, I know. That’s the hard part of this, right?

So maybe we should do a three-hour podcast. It’ll be very interesting. So let’s continue our conversation. The last time I left off, we cut off at my little scenario of how I explain the soul, the body, the emotions and the physical body, the mind, the emotions and the soul and being in control. So where do you start with your clients? What are some key things that people can take away to start addressing and facing the emotions? One of the things that I always explain to my patients is if you have a particular emotion, just sit with it and feel it. It’ll go away. It’ll go away. But when we have so many unhealed wounds, it’s harder to do that. So once you start processing your emotions, now if you feel anger or sadness, whatever it is, if you just sit with it, give it time, you do some of that inner process work, it’ll dissipate and go away. But when we do not feel the emotion, then it just gets bigger and bigger and it just becomes this big ugly monster and it stays stuck in our body. It does. Emotions stay stuck in our bodies. I don’t think people really understand that. And being a person, a practitioner that does a lot of body work, body therapies on people, I see when people just out of nowhere immediately have an emotional release, there’s no memory connected to that emotion. 

It’s true most of the time say, I don’t know why I feel like crying, or I feel pain here, or I feel anger or sadness, or I feel a void. And I just guide him through releasing that physically. And what I tell them is that our brain, in our brain, we’re able to have conscious thoughts, unconscious thoughts. That’s the stuff that’s filed back there that you’re holding on. But the body has consciousness too. The thing is it only has unconscious.

That’s right.

So that means we don’t understand why I feel anger.

It’s true.

I can go into a person’s quad Jacinda and start doing some release work in there, and I know anger tends to get trapped there, anger and frustration. And I’ll start just even, it’s not even a lot of pressure, start releasing stuff in the tissues. And I’m like, are you angry? Have you been feeling frustrated? 

They’ll start to be like, yeah, how do you know? I know because I know the patterns of where emotions tend to want to stay stuck in interesting points. Then I’ll let you talk. You’ve got a lot of good stuff to share. There’s a point right under the clavicle by the shoulder, it’s a lung meridian point. People who tend to hold emotions of sadness and grief. When I push on that, it hurts. Like I’m stabbing them. And most of the time they’ll do this because it hurts. And so if I ask them, is there anything you’re sad or that you’re grieving? And 10 out of 10, it’s always a yes.

Right at the center of our chest, there’s another acupuncture point, and this point binds the chest. So if a person’s been holding a lot of emotions, just kind of harnessing it in their heart, in their spiritual heart, if I push there, it’s very painful.

Sometimes the pressure isn’t even much and they’ll react like I am stabbing them. And I’ll tell them, you’re holding on to too many emotions you haven’t released.

Come on.

When people start to connect that their mind, and now they’re able to process that in their mind, that this pain that I just identified just by going straight there and pushing and they feel pain, and I say, it’s emotional pain you haven’t released, it blows your mind. So there is a connection, a huge connection. 

And it comes with a huge price. If you don’t feel you will not heal. That’s right. You just won’t. You won’t because your body will store it and it will develop disease, a lot of disease, a lot of imbalance. And honestly, that’s where people need the start addressing the emotional wounds you have. So let’s dive in. Let’s dive in. I want to hear what you have to say as you’re talking. 

I just feel this sense of people feel like if they do start feeling they’re going to drown, they’re going to drown. That’s what I’m sensing right now. And so there’s a fear to feel and lean into it because maybe they do have years and years and years and that could feel scary.

Very scary.

And so that’s what at Soul Prompt, we want to help you walk through that process, encourage you through that process, help you do that work and move through and learn how to process your emotions. But I just sense that, and I want to say that you’re not going to drown because when you invite the Lord into the process, he is the lifter of your head. He will not let you drown, but you have to open up for him to come in and do that deep work. We have to invite him to that space. And when you gave that analogy about the soul and what we feed right? If we feed our physical body and we let it lead, it’ll go off into addiction and other ways that we try to self-soothe or deal with our stuff, sometimes over exercising could be it. It might not even be a bad thing that it is anything that makes itself an idol or exalts itself and puts itself in the throne of our heart where God is supposed to be in that seat is not a good thing.

We have to put it back into balance. And so we’re always with the soul bottom line, minimally, always feeding it the word of God, always feeding the soul the word of God because that is the truth. That is the foundation. That is we won’t make it because the word of God is living in powerful. And that is what brings the healing. That’s how God changes us from the inside out. How we’re transformed. There are not enough I am statements that we could say that’s going to change us. It’s the power and the presence of God. It is the word of God. So that’s the first thing. But I love the Book of Psalms.

I wanted to talk about this. I wanted to read Psalm chapter 42, the whole chapter, if you’re okay, it’s ahead about 12 verses, and it’s David speaking and it says, As a deer pants for flowing streams, so pants, my soul for you, oh God, my soul, thirsts for God, for the living God. When shall I come and appear before God? My tears have become my food day and night. While they say to me all day long, where is your God? These things I remember as I pour out my soul, how I would go with the throng and lead them in procession to the house of God with glad shouts and songs of praise, a multitude-keeping festival. David asks himself again, why are you cast down? Oh my soul, and why are you in turmoil within me? Hope in God for I shall again praise him, my salvation and my God. I’ll stop there for a minute. So when we look at this, scripture, David is saying, I’m in pain.

I’m in pain.

My tears are flowing. I can’t even eat. That’s how much pain and grief I’m feeling. My tears have become my food. Where are you God? And then he goes on and he says, I remember all these things as I pour out my soul. And one of the things I tell folks to practically do is to pour out what they’re thinking in their mind, what they’re feeling in their emotions and what they’re wanting, like what they’re frustrated, what’s not happening, their will, right? So whether that’s pouring out, what does that look like? That could be pouring out in a prayer time with the Lord, that could be pouring out through worship, that could be pouring out, writing everything down. You feel I do that. I’m a journalist. I just write it all out. Or I’m crying it out to the Lord on my bed just weeping or angry. Maybe it’s not tears, but I’m pouring that out. And what is that doing that is making? I’m saying, okay, these are the emotions I’m feeling. I’m releasing them. I’m surrendering them. I am helping find a way to these tools crying, praying all those things to help those things move through my body. And what does that create? It creates an opening for the Lord, then his Holy Spirit, because the Bible says when we call on his name, he is there.

So then his presence comes and he begins to fill us up. And we begin to remember what David was saying here. He was saying, as I poured out my soul, I began to remember how we used to lead in procession in space or in front of their enemies. What God did. They would praise and shout and he was remembering. So he poured out his soul. Then he remembered what God did, and then he realized that this is just temporary because I’m going to hope. I’m going to praise again. Don’t worry, this feeling is temporary. I’m going to praise again even though, I didn’t read the whole chapter, but when you read this scripture and you meditate on it, you realize when I pour out, I remember. And then I, I’m losing my train of thought and then I recognize that this is going to be a temporary situation.

We say that so quickly because it’s in 12 verses, but this happens over time and over and over again, happens over process. When I wanted to stop yelling and do something different because I had all those emotions, I had to remind myself, I had to pour out and remember over and over and over in one day, in one hour in a matter of minutes. And that’s why the Bible tells us to take the cap of our thoughts. We can have tons of thoughts that come into our brains, tons all day, but we get to steward and choose which ones we’re going to grab and believe. And so when we’re going through this process, we are exchanging our old beliefs for his belief, which is the truth. And that is a process. And when we see our thoughts begin to change and our beliefs begin to change, then our emotions are going to begin to change. And the way we look at things are going to begin to change and our perspective is going to begin to change. And then we’re going to know that we know that we know not just through. I’m confessing and naming and claiming and doing the right Christian thing. I’m going to know inside my inward parts are going to know who God is through that process.

Oh, beautiful, beautiful, and powerful. Where do people start to help? Yeah, I was going to say, you can’t do that alone. And this is the thing, and we talked about this a little bit the last time, but I think we could dive in a little bit more.

And when we talk about surrender, because sometimes it’s easier, sometimes when we go through a season of pain, it starts getting really familiar and we would rather be in the familiar than let it go and surrender to experience true freedom. And sometimes we don’t even have that level of awareness. It’s not like we’re sitting there going, I just want to be in pain right now. I mean, it’s just this sense of I’m here, it’s my life. It is what it is. It’s always going to be this way. And we live in this comfort zone. Sometimes we don’t want to give it up. We don’t want to release the pain or release or forgive or whatever it is because I’m justified. I deserve it, I’m justified in the way that I’m feeling because the other person did me wrong. So I’m going to stay here because I don’t see justice happening.

So until justice happens, I’m going to stay here with this attitude, with this bitterness and with this anger. Sometimes it could just be I’m emotionally tired and I just can’t. I just can’t. But what I know to be true, is I was sitting on my bed, I’ve told this before, and I was crying because the Lord had given me instructions on what to do and I couldn’t see the benefit of what he told me to do. Nothing good. No good thing was happening. He told me to do something nice and I wasn’t getting niceness back. And I remember thinking, well, this is no, why am I doing this? And he’s like because I’m asking you to. And what he was doing was I look back now, he was changing my heart.

But in the middle of it, that’s not what I wanted as a result. But I look back now saying, oh, you’re doing this because you’re trying to help me heal with a soft heart and not with a bitter one with hardness in it. And I remember being on my bed and I could physically feel this in my body. The Lord invited me. He said, surrender this to me. Surrender this to me. I did not want to let it go. And I was crying, even saying with my words, I don’t want to let this go and I could feel my body not trying to hold on, but I could also feel the love of God and his compassion to say, let it go. I promise you I’ve got you. And I made that shift. I let it go. And I don’t know how to explain it to you.

I had let go of practice multiple times. Remember we talked about process and practicing and practicing and doing it over and over. I had done that multiple times. But in that act of stewarding that right, doing the right thing, even if I’m not feeling it, doing the right thing, I got to this milestone where it was so real that when I really released it, I thought I had surrendered it all the way me doing it over and over and over. I got to this milestone and all of a sudden it was like the grace of God showed up in a way that I had never experienced before. And it was like grace, meaning his strength to do the thing I thought I could not do. And that was to love someone that did not love me back.

To do the thing, to forgive the person who hurt me. It’s not just I love how practical God is and how he gives us the tools. It’s not just I give you grace so that way you can receive me and then you can go to heaven. It’s giving you grace here on earth, the strength to be able to do the hard thing, the thing that you feel like you cannot do, whatever that is, it emboldened me. I knew he was with me and I was able to take the next step because I felt so emotionally exhausted and tired. And I felt like when people, I was around people, I was just draining them. You know what I mean? Because I was just a walking mess is how I felt. So that’s what I’m trying to say. When we surrender, we invite him to give us the grace we exchange. An exchange happens. I let go. He comes in and then enables me by the Holy Spirit to do what we said with our mouths, we can’t do, I can’t heal. I’ll never get over this. You will when you surrender.

Amen. You explain exactly. I think everyone who goes through that healing goes through that because that’s exactly a very similar way to how I felt. You go through this process maybe some years down the road and you feel like I should have been able to let that go. And you do get to that point of frustration. Emotional exhaustion is a great mental exhaustion, physical, whatever. You get to a point, where you’re tired, you’ve been doing the work, maybe you’re seeing a counselor, you’re doing your inner work, some support people guiding you through the healing process and you feel like I should have let that go. That’s how I felt when it came to me. I had a lot of trauma around people dying in my life and my reaction to people dying. So I thought about my brother’s death, which we talked about in episode 18 with Casey, I mentioned how I suppressed all the emotions of grief and sadness and just indulgent in overworking. 

My escape was overworking and doing a lot. I was running away. That was my way of suppressing it. And it took me about seven years to realize I had a problem. I need to fix that. I need to work on that. And when I did, I thought, okay, I had a couple of sessions of this and that. I feel good. And then in medical school, here I am many years later and I’m like, why is this coming up? I am in my first year I mentioned my brother’s name and I’m just sobbing, uncontrollably. And I am thinking, I thought I already healed through this. I thought I already worked through this. But realizing that there are layers like an onion. You peel back one layer and then there’s another. I came up with a better analogy in doing some of my therapy sessions with a naturopath that I worked with and realized dealing with these emotions, is like that yarn that has many different colors. You get through the red and then there’s the blue and then there’s orange or whatever color and say red is anger. Okay, I’ve dealt with my anger. I think I’m done with a year of working on anger. And then no, something happens that brings it up and you’re healing.

Deeper and deeper. And so you have a ball of yarn of all these colors, of all these emotions. You’re unraveling and going through nodding. There are knots in there. So you’re just undoing it to find some organization back in your life. So I remember feeling very frustrated and angry sometimes about why haven’t I healed. But it wasn’t until I had that encounter that I fully surrendered and let God surrender this to God, let him in and just clean the path more, clean my heart, let him in, and take over. I remember there was a session you mentioned about feeling like you’re overwhelmed like you’re drowning. I remember there was a session I did a lot of EMDR. I’m a fan of EMDR. If you work with a good therapist, it can really be helpful. Helpful. And there’s a lot of, even I had Brenda Cochran, who she’s a Christian counselor. She does that with a Christian perspective, amazing work. But I remember this is all through medical school. God was really healing me through medical school. He was like, you need to heal you before you go be a doctor. But in one of the sessions of doing EMDR, I felt so many emotions. I remember I verbally said, I feel like I’m going to drown my tears. I feel like this room could be filled with my tears and they’ll just come up to the surface and I’ll just drown in them.

And it was powerful for me to say that I even feel it now because I remember how it felt. And my tears right now are tears of joy to have overcome that and to now be able to help other people go through that. When I see people I can see and feel now their emotions because I’m comfortable with feeling mine.

That’s right.

I feel safe and comfortable feeling them. And when I feel them in other people, I want to help them. I want to help them feel liberated by that and have that relationship with God. Ultimately. That’s really the goal because this physical body is going to die. It’s going to die. But where does the soul, where does your spirit go? What will it do? And so for me, the root cause, the end result is I want people’s souls to be restored so they can go back home.

That’s right.

This is temporary. All of this stuff is temporary, it doesn’t matter. And so I’ve learned to not attach myself to the hurt, the trauma, even my emotions.

That’s right. Just let it go.

That’s right.

But I had to get to a point, and most people do from my clinical experience, what I see in practice is that when people are coming in, they’re tired, they’re sick and tired. I can spiritually see they’re crawling into my office. And that’s why I don’t just work with anyone. I want to help those people. Those are my people. Those are our people to help. It is. Yep, absolutely. Because I love your story. Thank you for sharing. Because when you said, when I feel now, I don’t judge it, but I learned to release it quicker.

And that’s what healthy people do. Healthy people can say, okay, this is what’s going on. Let me dig deeper. Let me see where that comes from. Get curious. Right? The Bible talks about here, why so downcast on my soul? The Bible tells us we can get curious about our emotions. We can say, God, what’s going on on the inside of me. But then when we get healthy, we practice like anything. We practice surrendering. We practice eating the right foods, we practice getting help. And then it becomes second nature that you’re able to surrender quicker and easier. And you know what I mean? You’re lighter because you’ve built this muscle to say God, regardless of what’s happening. I know you have me. I stand on the theology that you are a good God.

Yes.

So regardless of what’s going on, regardless of how I’m feeling, I know you’re not going to let me drown. I know you’re not going to let this count against me because I’m feeling, I know you’re not going to say, well, you’re doubting, so you can’t get the answer because you’re not having faith. You’re going to let me have this moment where faith and feelings can be together. And God can say, let’s move through those feelings. And ultimately we let what God says be supreme. We let what God says be supreme. So when we process our emotions, we’re not saying processes, process them and let them lead. We’re saying process to them so that way when you release them, you are ultimately letting Jesus be, I’m serving you. I’m surrendering to you whatever behavior I need to do, that’s the right behavior. Releasing my emotions. I’m doing that because I love you. And sometimes I do that behavior even when I don’t feel like it. But I’m saying, I am choosing to follow you, Jesus. I am not choosing to follow my emotions. There are moments like that.

In the end, I know you’re going to help me process it, Lord, where I’ll be fully free of feeling this, but I’m going to trust you by obeying you because I have a relationship with you and I have a relationship with you because I understand that you’re a good God and you only have good for me. So even if it hurts, even if I go through the process and I feel like I’m dying when we get healthy, sometimes we have to die more before we see the good thing happening. Sometimes it hurts in the process, but if I can anchor that God is good and he’s for me in that process, then I can hold on. And if I have the right accountability around me, and if I have the right people around me to influence and encourage and coach and love, then I don’t have to do this thing alone. And that’s what keeps people trapped. When they don’t process their emotions and they keep the wall up, the very gift God wants to give to you, which is relationship and connection to help you move through those things, you say, Nope, I’m going to do it alone.

When we do it alone, we stay stuck.

That is really key right there. And we can speak from experience that when you close off yourself to feeling those emotions, you close off yourself to having genuine relationships. And I might’ve mentioned this in other episodes before, but when we shut down those icky emotions like anger and grief and sadness, our brain, it’s the amygdala that processes emotion and pain. It’ll shut down every emotion. So if you’re having grief because you lost a loved one and it hurts a lot and you’re suppressing that emotion of sadness, ultimately what happens is that the brain’s going to shut down and it’s going to stop feeling even love, joy, and all of that. So the brain is not able to select just some emotions so that you don’t feel it. And then the others, you’re not genuinely living. When you do not process and you continue to suppress emotions, you’re mask in your life, you’re masking.

You’re masking, you’re playing a charade. Everyone’s walking with the mask and thinking and thinking, oh, they’re such a great Christian, or they’re doing everything. No, if you hide that and mask that stuff, you’re not being real. And God can only transform when we’re real,

When we’re real. And that is really, why I want to say this because it’s really in my heart to say it doesn’t matter what everyone else sees or thinks of you. Exactly. And whether you’re expressing it or not, God sees it anyway.

So we might as well come and be honest, be real like God, you already know what I’m thinking. You know what? I feel that’s right.

The good and the bad things that I think and I feel that’s right.

So you might as well just be honest with yourself. I mean, just be honest with yourself. You can’t lie to God. You can’t hide from him.

Since I was a little girl, I understood that God sees everything and feels everything I see, everything I hear, everything I feel He knows it. So you cannot mask from the one that created you. But it’s similar. If we see this through the lens of parenting, we know our children, we’ve seen what they’re like, and now they’re like 15 and they’re interacting with their teenage friends. And we’re like, that’s not like, why are you changing? Why do you act with your friends that way? But you do not like to sit at home.

That’s right.

That’s how God feels like Jacinda. Why are you acting like that? That is not how I created you to be. Exactly. Don’t water yourself down because someone’s going to get hurt. Their feeling are going to get hurt.

Exactly.

Or don’t hide your emotions. You’re feeling for a reason. Feel it. But let’s learn how to manage it healthily because there are unhealthy ways and then there are healthy ways of managing that. I could feel angry. Look, anytime that I hear anything, any crimes against children, sex, crimes, et cetera, I am like a fireball. I am ready to, who do I need to go kick beat up? Yeah. There’s an angry energy there that’s passion and love together. That’s an energy that pushes me and propels me to do what I do throughout my life. However, if I’m in a constant state of anger and I’m not balanced

Balancing it and directing that energy in the right direction, not toward my family and being angry at them and yelling all the time like I did.

But if I can direct that energy to the right place, powerful things happen from that. Powerful things happen.

That’s right.

And even sadness, beautiful things can come through sadness too if we learn to balance that off. But it’s like a scale. We can’t let the scale go in one direction and say Suck. You cannot stay stuck in sadness. You cannot get stuck in anger. You can feel your sadness. I mean a lot of people know my audience by now know that my father passed away on Father’s Day. And you know what I get from people? I’m so sorry. They want to hug me. And I understand. It’s like they want me to cry and they don’t understand the peace that I have, that stillness that I have. Now, do I have moments where I miss them and cry?

Of course.

Absolutely. But you know what I do? I allow myself to cry.

That’s right.

It doesn’t matter if I’m driving. If I’m in front of a patient and it comes up, I feel it. I give it the attention, I feel it, and then it just dissipates and it goes instead of it staying in me physically. But that feeling, those emotions allow me moments to feel God’s peace and his joy.

So good. And when we are in faith about something, we’re asking God to do something. We’re in the process. We are frustrated. All those things. I believe God wants us to nurture our souls through that process. He wants to nurture our souls. He wants to nurture it with his presence, and his word through others. But there are so many ways that we can discover how we can nurture our soul. So have faith. I’m not saying not half faith, half faith, believe God, all the faith, but feel it. But at the same time, when we’re walking through long seasons of faith and in faith, we need to nurture our souls so that we can keep going so that we can keep being strong in our faith. So those two things go together. It’s not one or the other.

There is no, in terms of living a good Christian life, it’s not perfect. Right. Jesus didn’t come to save perfect people.

That’s right.

He knows us. 

And he’s not afraid of our humanity.

No, he’s not. And we don’t have to be some sort of model Christian for him to help us. 

No. I’ll be honest with you, lately, God has me in a space of resting and I stopped listening to things and I’m in a state of rest and I like it there. And sometimes I’m in church and I just want to sit there. I might look upset to everyone else. I don’t really care. I don’t really care. I know what I feel inside. If people could feel what I feel in here, it’s like my mouth can’t keep up with what my heart is feeling. And so I have a stoic look. Sometimes I do. It’s genetic. It comes through my ancestors. I am not mad. I’m not sad, I’m just still, but that stillness looks different to other people who might think, oh, she’s really grieving. I’m not. You might be surprised how much peace I have in me.

Well, I love it because we talked about this earlier, be still and know that I’m God, so you’re not going to drown because we’re going to know how powerful our God is. So when we’re still and we get to begin to feel, we can know how powerful and mighty he is in that moment. And he will not let us drown.

He will not. And the price, I always tell people, you either feel now and pay the price now or you pay it later and it’ll be accumulated interest with that. It’ll be a lot harder. So I always tell people losing family is never easy. Losing loved ones is never easy because people die in different ways, sudden deaths. There’s no time to talk. Say what you want to say, but you don’t have to wait until those situations. You can start expressing your love for people right

Now. That’s right.

And that’s what I found really hard Jacinda in my life I had a hard time telling other people, I love you mean a lot to me. It felt so hard for me to express that. But when you heal, you’re able to say it and it’s genuine. So what are some, because I know you got a lot of goodies. What are some things that I know you were talking about where to start with for people, get someone to help you, especially if this is a lot of accumulation, get someone to help you. I will second that motion too because it’s very difficult for you to do it alone.

As you were talking earlier, I was thinking that when we are walking this process, in order to receive from the Lord, we also have to let go and let the walls down. And so when we talk about nurturing our souls and letting go, sometimes we block what God’s trying to give to us and download to us because we have a wall up. And so we can’t say, I don’t have a wall up over here, but I have a wall up over here. If you have a wall up, you have a wall up, which means you’re not getting all that God has for you. So when we say feel, that’s another way of saying, letting go, surrendering, letting ourselves feel. But in that, we may feel that rush of whatever that emotion is, but we’re also allowing room for the Lord. I just feel like I’m supposed to the Lord. You’re like, I don’t feel you, God, I don’t see you. And sometimes it’s like, okay, Lord, help me. I might not even be aware that I have a wall because we have to be able to let go to even receive from him.

Yeah, absolutely.

And that’s another way of surrender.

Yeah, absolutely.

And so when we do this work, the first step, as I said before, is to feel and to pour out. Let’s identify what’s going on. Let’s get curious. Let’s invite the Holy Spirit to help us become aware of, because there are things that I do that I have no awareness of. But when I read his word, the Holy Spirit be like, oh, that’s you. Oh, you do that. Oh, that’s the wrong motive. I didn’t know I’m living my best life, but it’s being in his word. And so ground level, it’s reading a scripture every day, even if it’s one, just to keep the word, keep the truth alive in your life, even if you don’t believe it, even if it frustrates, you always keep the truth alive because that’s what grounds us. And I remember when I was going through hard times, my friend would send me scriptures and I would roll my eyes, but I read them and I knew that God was using them because the word is living.

And so I knew God was using that. So it’s like keeping the word of life and then begin to just, I actually have a worksheet. If you go to soul prompt.co, there’s this worksheet you can use that I have created to help you begin to identify your feelings and process them and write them down. And I ask certain questions to help you sort of think through. And that is a good starting point. It’s to kind of begin to process what you’re feeling and then receive other resources to sort of help you keep going. But part of that too is nurturing your soul. So just process what you’re going through, nurture your soul and invite the Lord into the process.

We’ll make sure to include that link in our description of this video so that people can have access to that and find a place to start.

That’s a good place to start. It’s really easy. It’s not hard. It’s not tough. It’s just making kind of sit and be still and kind of figure out what’s going on in inside. 

It’s really important for our audience to know that when you’re now, you’re desiring, right? You have to have the desire to want to heal and start going through this, even if you are afraid is that you start being mindful of what are you watching. What are you listening to? Because these are the windows to the soul. They start to influence your mind and how you behave how you feel and so forth. 

Hence the word. I love that you said that. And that’s why I said have the word. And because it is so easily influenced when your defenses are down when you’re tired.

And I’ll tell you, and here’s the difference between listening to motivational things or seeing motivational clips versus the word of God is that there’s an emptiness in those motivational lines. In those messages, there’s an emptiness. There’s a truth in it. There’s a truth, but it’s not the word because it doesn’t have the spirit in there. And so when you read God’s word, it’s hard maybe at first, but it will start speaking to your soul and it’ll start working from the inside out.

And if your heart is hard, it’ll begin to soften your heart. Heart. It’ll begin to soften.

Because the word of God is living. Yes. You got to toil the soil, the sometimes it up. And I could have, I mean there are parts of my heart that are hard. But that’s why I keep the word of God in there because I want him to change. I want to be transformed. And there is no other way, and I do want to say this, if you want healing, it really does come down to a choice. It is a choice. I mean, at the end of the day. And it’s a choice that we have to continue to make over and over and over again.

It’s a choice. And you’re making decisions daily throughout the day. And that’s the choice where you’re making, what am I watching? What am I listening to?

What am I thinking?

What am I thinking?

What am I choosing to believe? Who are my friends? What are the things that I am immersing myself daily? And then from there, you need to want to have the desire in choosing to develop your self-awareness being self. What is that? We can have a whole talk on a whole nother thing in another episode, but you need to develop that self-awareness. And that’s the ability to stop. Slow down and look at yourself, not out here. Don’t be judging and worrying about what everyone else is doing. Ownership in here, right here. What am I doing? How am I reacting? How am I thinking? How am I feeling? What’s my behavior? What do I like, what I don’t like? How do I change? 

That’s right.

And if you need people to help you get the help.

There’s so many people that can help.

You and not let people judge where you are in the journey as long as you’re moving. Because our emotions can either take us closer to Jesus or away from Jesus. So as long as you’re moving closer to Jesus, as long as you’re not getting stuck by holding on, then it doesn’t matter what it looks like to the outside world, how long it matters taking you to matter. 

And sometimes, and oftentimes, if not, when you are going through healing, it’s not something you’re really communicating. You have to keep yourself the masses. 

Yes. Be mindful.

Be mindful of who you’re sharing what you’re sharing and who you let speak into your life.

Yes.

Who’s speaking into your life? Get good people. I always tell my patients, to pray that God sends them good friends and that God sends you good support. There’s nothing wrong with you praying and asking for those things. You should be praying because look, I have a good friend. I pray.

I love it. I love

That we were friends. So I love the friendship, the relationship that we have. And I know that there’s something God is going to use as to help more people out there to be comfortable with being in tune with their emotional side.

I want to share this thing before we wrap several things before we wrap up. In 2020, during Covid, I got sick with Covid for the first time. It was around end of June, and I had so much revelation from God during this time, I remember him sharing a message with me, and I knew the message wasn’t just for me, it was for humanity, and it made sense and it didn’t make sense to me then. And that was that I needed to strengthen myself spiritually, physically, mentally and emotionally. And immediately I knew where my weaknesses were in that moment. He downloaded that into my spirit. And I said, okay. It was like my sergeant giving me orders. And I said, okay, I’m going to do that. And I started. Once I got better, I started to immediately work on those things. I need to read the word of God daily because I wasn’t doing it every day. I need to make sure I’m praying daily. I wasn’t doing that. I was meditating, but not praying. I started to work out. I’m like, once I get a little bit more physical strength, I start hiking from there. I started hitting the gym, started kickboxing, having left that, but then I knew emotionally I could still do more work. I can still get myself together and mentally as well. And it’s an ongoing, those are the four things. I love it. I consistently make sure that I’m doing something for all of those parts of me so good.

And that’s what I encourage people to do. What are you feeding yourself spiritually? If you don’t have spiritual food, good luck. You’re going to die and you’re going to struggle in this world. So spiritual food is the word of God. It is living. It is our bread of life, and the living waters is the Holy Spirit. So that’s what we eat and that’s what we drink to nourish ourselves spiritually.

So good.

There’s nothing that can replace that. I’m sorry. It just doesn’t work. It’s true. I’ve done it. Yoga doesn’t work. It’s going to take you down a path of darkness and destruction. And then physically, are you eating while? Are you resting? Are you managing your stress? Are you working out? What are you doing for your mind? Are you filling your mind with good information? Are you making sure you’re using the brain it needs to be used? Or if you don’t use your brain cells, you’ll lose them. And then emotionally, how are you addressing? What are you feeding into your emotional side? How are you stewarding that? How are you stewarding? That worshiping can be something we feel emotions when we worship. So that could be feeding ourselves in many ways and not just one way. So you have to address, what are the things that I want to feed into these four areas of my life That very important to do that. 

I have one last quote. It’s so good. It goes with what you said. I heard Dr. Crae say once, don’t be so holy that you forget about being whole. Whole. Oh, I like that. Don’t be so holy that you forget about being whole. And that’s your body, your spirit, and your soul.

Amen. I love this conversation. I’m so grateful that you’re joining us on this. I know you’re going to be back. Thank you for having me. We’ll see the feedback that we get from people and what because I know there are other topics that people want to learn more about this. And this is just kind of like an introducer, really, because the audience will see, I really want to know more about this, and I’ve been getting some good feedback from people. So we’ll invite you back so we can have more conversations on real topics, real practical things that we need to address. And so everyone, I want to thank you for joining us and enjoying the amazing information that Jacinda shared with us in these last two episodes. I hope you take a lot of great value with this. Don’t take your emotions for granted. They’re telling you something.

And remember, it’s part of who we are. We just have to learn to balance and navigate them in our life. And so as always, I share this video with someone you think would really benefit from learning this information. Make sure you’re subscribing to the channel, liking and sharing so that more people can have access to this free information that is so life-changing and transformation and transformative for themselves. So as always, everyone, I thank you and be blessed. Thank you for listening to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast. If you like what you’ve heard, please like, share and subscribe, help this message, and reach more people who may need to hear it. Leave your comments. I want to know what you think. If you’re interested in learning more about Raices, visit our website. Until next time, be blessed.

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