Join the conversation with Dr. Lara and Dr. Werner on how to stand on the principles of truth. Dr. Stephanie Werner is a Naturopathic Medical Doctor; owner and founder of Synergy Restorative Medicine in Mesa, AZ; learn about her story on why she became an NMD. Listen to how two naturopathic medical doctors uphold the integrity of Naturopathic Medicine, the rights for people’s freedoms in medicine; and keeping their eyes on Jesus Christ as their leader. The basis of this conversation is on: Luke 3:9: “Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire”. This content is for educational purposes only, it is not intended for medical advice. Please consult with your medical provider for guidance. The doctors in the interview are expressing their personal opinions and professional/personal experience; as it is their 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech; and not intended to persuade anyone of their medical decisions. This is for entertainment purposes only!
Podcast 23 Transcript
Welcome to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast empowering you to take a whole person approach to your well-being, spirit, soul, and body. Join me your host, Dr. Ana Lara, a naturopathic, doctor, entrepreneur, and a servant of Jesus Christ. We are not just a body, we are spirit and soul. It’s time to integrate medicine and spirituality into our healing. Let’s get started. Welcome back to Physician Healing Self, the podcast. I’m your host, Dr. Alara, and today I have a special guest. She’s a friend and a colleague of mine, and before that, I want to introduce you to her. This is Dr. Stephanie Warner. She’s a naturopathic medical doctor. She’s the owner and founder of Synergy Restorative Medicine here in Mesa, Arizona. She’s an amazing truth fighter, a naturopathic physician who stands strongly to uphold the integrity of naturopathic medicine and the rights for our freedoms in medicine. I admire her strong stance and fearlessness as she claims her faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. So please help me welcome Dr. Stephanie Orner.
Hi, thank you so much. I am so excited to be here. It’s just amazing to see just seeing you blossom in this too. I remember you spoke about this type of thing a while ago and it’s just, here we are. I love it. Here we are. God said, get ready, let’s go.
Oh man. And when he tells you and there’s that path, it’s fast.
It is fast. I had been sitting on this for four years and so earlier this year it was like it’s go time. So it really moved quickly.
Oh, I just got chills because this year is the year that God is having these young lions stand up and start to roar. And because it was the same thing with me where I just felt that God said, alright, this is the year that I’m going to get you ready for the difficult road that’s ahead, that we all know what’s coming and those of us who have been paying attention. So I love to see so many strong Christian Foundation physicians standing up for what the public needs. And it’s amazing. I’m so happy to be a part of you and part of this.
I feel everything you’re saying, let the lions stand up and roar. I had a prophetic message a year ago around the summertime that God was saying the lions are getting to roar and oh my gosh, cry. It was just very powerful, I think I even have a video that I posted on my social media that said, get ready because the lions are going to roar. We are tired of being silent and we are tired of being silenced.
And we need to stand up and speak up the truth, not our truth. God’s truth. That’s right. Our creator’s truth. So this episode is going to be dedicated to standing on the principles of truth. Absolutely. So before we get into that, why don’t you share with our audience a little bit about yourself, who you are, why did you become a naturopathic doctor? I think it’s really important for viewers to see the person behind the title. Who are you?
Absolutely. For most people who get into naturopathic medicine, it’s because of some sort of event or something in their life that they realize that something’s not right With the traditional medical model. I grew up my entire life, just my mom was a nurse, she was an ICU nurse in New York City and around the country, and she, that’s what we knew. And I kept having a lot of ear aches and I went through several surgeries and all these things and what ended up happening is that after I turned 18 and my ear, nose and throat doctor was like, alright, you should be growing out of these ear aches. I never did. So I stopped getting tubes in my ears. And then when I was about 21, I met a chiropractor, believe it or not, who said, oh yeah, the first bone in your cervical spine is off. That’s why you were having earaches. And after I started getting adjusted, my body healed itself and I didn’t have earaches anymore and I felt much better. And it was through the chiropractor that he, and he was a Christian in Florida where I lived, and he was the one that taught me from above down from the inside out, that’s how we heal. And I held onto that and it just made sense. I grew up a Christian, God heals the body.
Easy.
So then it was my journey and different people that I met, it was actually a neurologist who taught me and introduced me to naturopathic medicine, believe it or not. And this is when I lived in Florida in 2009, 2010. And that’s when I started doing the research and said, oh, naturopathic medicine is where it’s at. And that’s what brought me out to Arizona. And I never looked back because I love the heat. Let’s be real. It’s beautiful and we’re going to a great time. So yeah, so that’s really what brought me in is just seeing the shift and the things that I learned in my own health. And of course, I had a home birth with my son and really grazing him on our principles and he’s a very healthy child. And of course, so that’s really some of the personal impacts that I have seen. Yes, the body heals itself.
Wow, amazing. So you have a verse that you wanted to share and discuss a little bit that’s tied into this conversation. Tell us a little bit about that.
So I was invited to speak at the Jesus Club and as I was preparing for it.
Tell us about the Jesus Club. What is it, where is it?
So the school that we both graduated from here in Tempe, Arizona was called Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine. Now it’s Sonoran University of Health Sciences. And one of the students was on shift with me for her field observation. So just observing as a student how we operate in our clinics. And she, by week two or three, said, I need you to come speak at the Jesus Club. I really feel like you have a lot to provide for students. And so the Jesus Club at the school was not a thing when we were there. No, it wasn’t. I graduated in 2015, and so it’s been a while, but they started this club because you have a bunch of Christians and usually within naturopathic medicine it is more of a new age type of thought process. And so God heals the body.
It makes sense as a Christian that we use naturopathic medicine when that foundation because that’s true, we’re created, and we can heal. And so it just made sense that the Jesus Club would be at our school. And so she asked me to speak and it was awesome. It was actually about a month ago, and I sat down the morning of and I opened up the Bible, and literally just how God speaks to you, you open it up and it’s boom right there. And it was in Luke nine, sorry, Luke three, nine through 14 was right there. And it’s the story of John the Baptist, prepare the way of the Lord where he was claiming that I’m not the Savior, I’m not the Messiah. I will literally point you to the Messiah that is coming. And if you’ve been paying attention, I know you have the Lord’s returning very soon and we can see it and we can feel it in our soul. Every ounce of my being can feel it. And that’s what I have been saying for years, I have these little bracelets. I’m not wearing it today, but it’s what would John the Baptist do?
We are supposed to be that mouthpiece as Christians who believe in preparing the way for the second return of the Lord. And that has always been kind of like my foundation in my own practice is speaking truth and God’s truth. So when I was preparing for the Jesus Club, I sat down and went through that passage and it just hit me like a ton of bricks. It’s the part where Jesus or where John the Baptist was coming in and people of course the crowds were gathering and there were very specific questions that were being posed to John the Baptist. And the way that he answers them is very relevant to how we’re supposed to be as businessmen, businesswomen running even as politicians, or just how we’re supposed to conduct ourselves. And one, it was very specific about how, and this is throughout the Bible, God is going to take the ax to the roots that are not bearing good fruit.
And especially as a person who has a lot of knowledge as a physician to help people, you need to make sure that you’re bearing good fruit. And a lot of that for me is, well, people are getting better and they don’t need me anymore, which is not a good business model, but that’s exactly what my business model is, is help people get better, to see me less because they know how to take care of themselves. That’s what physicians heal or physician we’re supposed to do. We’re supposed to educate patients. So then a part of that passage was a tax collector came to John the Baptist, and that’s where John was saying that you take what is necessary and that is so important, especially with the amount of price gouging and the fact that people will charge astronomical amount of money for services that shouldn’t be that much.
Yes, we definitely should get paid what we’re worth, absolutely. But I really have a hard time seeing where people are just charging this astronomical amount and then where people just can’t afford our services. And then another one of the part of the passage was a Roman soldier came up, and if you remember during that time when Israel was being occupied by Rome, that was a very hard thing for the Romans and for the Jews to get along. So when the soldier came, it was like, how do I follow Christ being a Roman soldier? And the passage is, you are fair. And just when you are bringing your authority and bringing that type of power, you know what I mean, that power over people, you have to be fair and just in that, but then what’s very important is part of that passage it said, but be okay with your salary.
And that really hit me because I say over and over again, you don’t go into naturopathic medicine because you want to be wealthy, you go into naturopathic medicine because you truly want to help people. And there is a staunch difference. We don’t really make a lot of money because one, we don’t rely on insurance. We’re out of pocket. And when I was explaining this to the students, a lot of what you’re going to be taught is, oh, you can get on social media, have a file that someone can download for $1,500. I’m like, is that really, really okay? You have to start understanding what God wants you to do, number one. And if you’re doing what God wants you to do and you’re really, really trusting him, he will provide for all of your needs, and how that looks might not be monetary value,
It might be opportunities to talk and speak to other people. It might be, for example, you having this amazing ability to bring this knowledge through what you’re doing as well. It’s opening those doors. So understanding that it might not be money, God will provide for all your needs according to those who serve him. And it was one of those interesting situations where one of the students even said, thank you for talking about Jesus at the Jesus club. But she was becoming very frustrated because a lot of the other providers that would come in kept talking about, oh, you can make money this way. Oh, you can make money and make money. And she started saying, oh, why are we not seeing patients anymore? Why is everything going on social media? I personally, personally do not believe that that’s good. Quality medicine is just you never see a person in person. And it was very impactful at that point where I just felt that these students need to really be guided a little differently than what a lot of the business marketing stuff that’s out there. And I really felt that, oh, here comes and I love teaching.
I love teaching students. And afterward, a lot of them came up and said, can we please just meet on a regular basis? We need a good mentor. And I felt that that was an opportunity that the Lord said, yep, this is it. This is your teaching. How do we change healthcare we have to have number one, good, solid naturopathic physicians who are grounded in truth, who are grounded in our principles to be able to impart our wisdom to them. They’re going to be that next generation and then the next generation, the next generation of physicians.
Wow, this is amazing. You’re preaching. I received it all even though I walk that I believe that. But what you’re saying is you’re speaking life to those naturopathic doctors out there who are practicing, who may not be practicing in such a way, or people who are the students, people who want to come into this field. You’re absolutely right. This is not a field that you go into to become a millionaire or to be the next big social influencer.
Thank you for saying all that because I think when we all start off, we do start to compare to what is this other doctor, what everyone is doing. And early on I felt the Lord really say, you’re going to follow my lead. Absolutely. We’re going to do it differently. And I remember during COVID, I found myself comparing how I practice my practice with other naturopathic doctors. And of course, the enemy’s always going to use that to make you feel insignificant, to put doubt and fear in your mind, devalue you. And I remember the Lord telling me to not compare myself and not compare their success to where I’m at because he was using me in a different way and I had to really humble myself and trust, trust where he was taking me because we’re not going to leave this conversation without talking about 2020.
Oh, I know.
What happened because we’re talking about speaking the truth. That’s right. And I want to hear your story. I want to share my reaction of when March of 2020 we announced that we were going to be locking down. I remember sitting in the office in my clinic, just feeling the download that I’m receiving from the Lord showing me and telling me, be observant of what’s about to happen. That’s right. And be quiet for now.
Wow.
That was hard because we like to stand up and sound the alarm. That’s what God created us for. That’s exactly right. He created us to sound the alarm, but he said, be quiet, just observe. And I did. And I remember those first two weeks initially, my reaction to all of this was what an opportunity for naturopathic doctors to step up and teach people and help people to avoid this. There was no fear about this virus to me. For me.
That’s exactly right.
And that’s truth to me. I was not afraid of it. I was like, I’m going to go and educate people. And immediately, Dr. Warner, it was our own community, our naturopathic doctors that started to shut that down. So a conversation happened online of whether are you going to keep your clinic open and I’m going to close. I’m going to do virtual. I knew I was new. I was in my first year of business, so maybe into my second year, and I thought, there’s no way I’m going to close my doors. I am. We are essential to be working and helping people. Why would I close my doors? It made no logical sense. If all of these stores, I’m not going to name stores, but if all of these stores are open and their parking lots are full, and why am I the doctor who brings healing and education to the public, why would I close my doors? Not only was it going to put me out of business, I didn’t want to rely on the government for any funding, any loans. I just didn’t want that.
That’s right.
Because I wanted to work.
That’s right.
I wanted to help people, yet my colleagues felt that I was being, responsible for keeping my doors open. God forbid you become a vector. Yeah. Seeing one person at a time is going to spread disease where these stores, there are tons of people everywhere. That’s right. So tell me, what was your experience, your reaction initially when the lockdowns were happening and all of this stuff in the media was going on?
I actually remember it very well because one of my mentors, and he’s an amazing man, he’s also a very big Christian as well. I remember being on the phone with him for hours actually at the very beginning, and he gave me all of the correct protocols to keep people out of the hospital, including hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, including a lot of different IV therapies and things that I was already doing in my office anyway for different chronic disease, which I work with. And I said, okay, great. So I knew how to treat these people before it really even started going into a lockdown, because I was like, well, I feel like, what’s the hype around this? Interestingly enough, one of the physicians that were in my office was coming back from a trip and I remember when she landed in LAX, I get a phone call and she said she was in Fiji, so she had no clue what was going on. That’s the nice thing about being off grid for a little bit. And I said, oh, you know something, it’s going to blow over. It’s really not that big of a deal. I had the mechanism of action. I learned all of that information before the lockdown happened.
So this information was there prior to it even hitting our shores. So that’s another reason why I said, nah, all right. If we already have this information, it’s going to blow over. I did an Instagram live talking about, oh, something in six weeks this will be done. We never closed down because number one, God doesn’t give us a spirit of fear. That’s Satan. In my world, it’s very black and white. It’s God or Satan, and that’s how I operate. So some people like it, some people need a little more gray. So we never closed down. We never did masks. The only thing that we actually shut down for only six weeks was the aesthetic aspects. Some of the other doctors did aesthetics because yeah, you’re right there in their face. Totally makes sense. But then we realized, no, when you start hearing the repetition of what was happening in a lot, of the talking heads in the media at that point I realized that nope, this is absolutely a fear-driven control tactic by Satan.
Satan hates this country simply because our country was founded on the principles of Christianity. And so that’s why I keep saying God only is he’s a God of order. He’s a God of truth. He’s a god of life. So anything that’s the opposite of that, I’m like, no, I don’t believe that. This is what God wants. So we kept our doors open, and it also turned in that my clinic was really busy, a word got out that I was treating a lot of covid patients. And you’re right, because I would get into Facebook arguments with our own colleagues who weren’t even seeing patients, and I started saying, I made a lot of enemies. I was like, if you haven’t taken a blood pressure or done a pulse ox in person on a patient, you have no right to open your mouth. That really didn’t sit well with a lot of people who were fear-driven. Then of course the whole vaccine thing.
Because we know how the body works. We know about germ and terrain theory.
That’s right. That’s right.
It’s like, where were you in class? Were you asleep? Did you miss out?
That’s right.
So yeah, I got in a lot of those conversations, and I know some people got upset at me because I said things like These people behind this, they’re completely demonic.
That’s right. This is a demonic influence and attack on humanity all over the world. That’s exactly right. This is not of God. This fear was unnatural. The real virus was the fear itself. That’s exactly right. And so I was not flexible with doing telemedicine here and there, especially if they were out of state. There are certain situations, but I’m an in-person type of doctor. I want to touch, I want to observe. I want to have that interaction. People’s community crave that. That’s right. They crave that communication in person, that community. There’s something that you lose by doing it virtually. I remember early on the first telemedicine appointments I would do, I would tell my marketing person, why am I so drained after a video call? It’s so draining. And she explained why, and I’m like, I hate them.
I don’t like ’em either.
I refuse to be the doctor to hide and to hide behind a computer. That’s exactly right. That’s right. We’re warriors.
That’s right.
Why are we afraid?
Well, and my mentor also said, this is an opportunity for naturopathic physicians to shine. Absolutely. So the moment the school shut down, and we already knew there was a lot of shift coming with the education in the majority of the schools
And even in our national organization, and it’s very, very sad. I will not be a backseat doctor when I know that I am the driving force in healthcare.
I am just so fired up right now. I am disgusted that our own colleagues encourage getting the vaccine. Dr. Warner, I know you’ve seen this. The number of people that have been impacted either took their life and it changed their health or the quality of their life forever. Cancers autoimmune cancer, cancers, autoimmune conditions, and very young people. And we are just starting to see the tip of the point of it. We’re just seeing the beginnings of it. What is it going to do to these children? That’s right. Who received it or the children who were in the wombs of mothers, how can a doctor be okay? Never in the history of time has it been okay to give an experimental treatment therapy vaccine that hasn’t been properly authorized, has not gone through the safety regulations given to a pregnant mom, or given to a nursing mom.
And this is a very different type of vaccine. We know that. And I actually, when I was in Florida, lectured about vaccines with a neurologist and it was very eye-opening. The conversations that I had with him with how even within the allopathic medical world, if you don’t vaccinate your child, you’re very hush-hush about it. It’s almost like you can’t talk freely, then you’re ostracized. People look at you and say, what’s wrong with you?
And he was like, you’re hurting your child. You’re hurting your child if you don’t vaccinate. And that was one of those very, and this is before I even went to naturopathic school, and I remember just going through and seeing people on social media talking about, you’re not a good doctor unless you got your vaccine or you’re this or the gaslighting. Even people who are considered our elders backing the vaccine, I had a very difficult time. Even today when I see or have to interact with that person, I just start looking at them differently. And I respect the people. In order to go through med school, you have to be intelligent. You have to be. You have to be. But critical thinking is not something that is taught anymore in every part of medicine. As naturopathic physicians, we are very good at critical thinking and how we’re trained.
And I’m actually even calling us like heritage naturopathic, heirloom naturopathic doctors because the ones that are even coming out of school and being pumped out of the schools now, they are protocol driven. They can’t think about cause-effect if a person’s doing this, how to even work through the symptoms. And it’s really sad. And that’s where going through covid and going through the whole experience just really grounded me even more to the point where I tell people now, no, if they ask me my opinion, I don’t ever tell people what to do. But if a patient says, would you do this? I say, absolutely not.
Right At the beginning, I think we were a little cautious about it’s your choice. Here’s where I stand on this. But it’s ultimately your choice now because of the negative terrible effects that I’ve seen it happen to people. I’m like, no, absolutely not.
That’s right.
I would be a hypocrite to say anything else, but no, don’t do it. That word and that. Yeah. And I can’t do that. I’ll tell people, instead of asking me that, why don’t you ask me what I am doing for myself and my family? That’s right. And I want them to verbally ask me. And when they say, what are you doing to you and your family? Then I’ll tell ’em, this is what I do for myself and my family.
That’s right.
So you make the correlation there. Why would I tell you to do it differently?
That’s right.
Maybe I know something that you don’t fully understand. You might want to start questioning. You might want to start doing research and understanding. I tell a couple of my colleagues and they laugh at me. I say, we have all the critical thinking, the analytical abilities, all the education and the clinical experience. But the one thing I turn to when I have a tough case, I don’t know where it’s not another colleague. I go to Jesus. That’s right. I say, God, Lord, what do I need to do with this person? And I’ll go into prayer. I have been known to leave my office where the patients there, walk down my hall and pray. Amen. Love it. And pray and ask, God, give me reveal to me. Where do I start with this person? So complex. And it just immediately now comes down to me that download. I’m not looking at Google, I’m not looking at other, I mean, I do turn to my resources or medical resources, but when I’m in that situation, I just automatically get that revelation of do this test. That’s right. You’re going to find something there. Give that therapy.
Even in my new patient intake, I have a line on there that says, are you with your physician praying with you in the name of Jesus Christ? Oh, I love that. I’m going to add that. Absolutely. Please do. And that’s what I tell all my students. I’m like, we’ve been conditioned pretty much our whole lives to not talk about two things, politics and religion. And guess what? Every moment I get, I’m talking. I’m speaking the name of Jesus. I’m talking about how I am a Christian, even in part of my new patient videos on my website. People need to know what they’re walking into.
Yes, you do.
It’s also a trust factor where even if patients come in, they’re not necessarily believers. They know that I’m still going to pray for them over them, and I’m still going to do what I absolutely can to bring them back to a place where they can heal.
Amen. I truly believe that our job as naturopathic medical doctors is not just to help them physically, mentally, and emotionally, but to reconnect them to their creator. That’s exactly right.
To lead them in that. Like John the Baptist, don’t follow me. Don’t believe me. Don’t worship me. You should have this connection to God directly to God with Jesus. Because guess what? More difficult times are coming ahead.
That’s exactly right.
If we thought Covid was a big deal to come in this next year or next couple years,
That’s right.
They’re preparing for another. We got you. That’s right. There’s more fear.
Right.
But when you follow and you serve a God of truth, a God who’s a healer and a teacher who loves you, a father, he’s going to protect you and he’s going to directly guide you and tell you Don’t believe that. That’s a lie. Here’s what you need to do. We need to have that divine connection with God every time. I always joke around, but not joking around. I say, people always carry their cell phones and they make sure that it’s charged and that they have a connection with the internet. We should have that same concept. We should have. We should want to be connected to God all the time and receive those downloads, make sure that we’re powered up and that we’re connected to that source.
Yep. That’s so true. Because at the end of the day, and I actually had a, do you remember Dr. Rick Kirschner?
Yes. I love him.
I did a podcast with him a couple of weeks or about a month ago. Oh wow. And he literally said one thing that was very impactful because he also, during Covid, unfortunately, made a lot of enemies as well, not enemies, people who he was friends with no longer to him. They turned their backs. And he said one thing. He said, no matter what, I can lay my head down at night and sleep well, because I know I did the best I can for every person I came in contact with, every situation and every patient in our situation. Which is true because our first oath is what do no harm? No harm. If our first oath is to do no harm to every single person who walks in there, then why in the world would a naturopathic physician recommend a vaccine, a new one,
An experimental, an experimental one? How do people think? I don’t understand. I get that most people don’t understand the process of creating and developing a vaccine or the mechanism. But it doesn’t happen in six to nine months, guys. No, it doesn’t. Just through the experimental process, its years and then getting it approved officially through FDA, they have to look for safety and efficiency. If they don’t pass a safety inspection, it doesn’t even make it pass that line to treat people. But they completely bypass that. And people need to know their laws. This is why big on know the laws know the rights. Right after September 11th happened, laws changed a lot during that time which it allowed these manufacturers to come up with vaccines or medications if they were needed on an emergency basis. Well, you have to create an emergency and not just the emergency for the use of them, but there has to be no other form of therapy that can fix this problem.
That’s right.
That’s why all these pharmaceutical drugs that we knew could help. Like, Nope, nope. All these doctors that were in these hospitals that did think outside the box, praise the Lord for them that had the courage to say, no, I’m the doctor. That relationship is between me and my patient. That’s right.
That’s right.
Not the government, not anyone else. And that’s how it should be.
That’s right.
The decisions that a patient makes is their decision, first of all, whether they want to take it or not. Those are the laws of our country. It allows you to have informed consent, and freedom, and part of informed consent is understanding what you’re getting into and having the right to refuse it. We were ripped off the right to refuse it. People had to get it to keep their jobs, to go to school, to live their life. And that was short-lived, unfortunately, or luckily, it was short-lived.
And it’s also the conditioning that society was, oh, well, if you don’t get the vaccine, you’re putting me at risk. At risk. That is, A lie is dangerous because especially there’s one good thing that came out of covid. People are waking up and saying, Ooh, maybe I shouldn’t be overweight, diabetic, have all this metabolic disorder and inflammation, which is huge because metabolic disorder, comes from our sugar, corn, American wheat, excessive standard American diet, that idea and people waking up to wait maybe because that’s a huge core morbidity in any type of illness. So when people, and I try to look at the positive side of covid that people are more aware now and they’re asking me that question and asking me how do I fix and how do I lose weight? How do I get myself to where now I can prevent it?
Absolutely.
And that’s where we need to pull away from this idea that everyone else needs to do X, Y, and Z. So I don’t get sick. That’s a very selfish way of looking. No, I need to improve myself to make sure that I am healthy so I can prevent as best I can. The difference what ends up happening when you get ill from Anything.
Anything. I agree. I think that I called it the great revealer because though the enemy tried to use it and did use it for harm, God turned it around to help us reveal where we needed to work on to see the evil and the different systems and the control and the fear. And I agree. I think I was so busy. I was so busy from that I, and I learned a lot. And I think that’s when my relationship with God even became closer. And it was in 2020 that I heard the Lord tell me that we needed to prepare ourselves to strengthen ourselves spiritually, physically, mentally, and emotionally. Because in those four areas we will be attacked. And if you physically fear because of your health, then you need to go see a naturopathic doctor. That’s right. I’m not even going to say functional. Just go see a naturopathic doctor. Find someone who aligns with your values, aligns with doing the real work and’s not going to tippy-toe around the issues.
That’s right.
And be truthful in their approach. That’s going to educate you and help you get to a better state of health so that you’re not fearing, you don’t have fear of an illness. If you believe in God, if you believe in Jesus, you should understand the healing power and ability, how God designed our bodies.
To heal, like you said, from the top down, from the inside out. That’s how he designed our bodies to heal and recover themselves by doing the right things, by being in the right relationship with food, with exercise, with sleep, with stress, with relationships, with everything. If we’re in the right relationships and the most important one, being in the right relationship with God, then you shouldn’t have anything to fear.
That’s right.
Because even our Christian brothers and sisters, ran towards the vaccine. It’s like, well, what if this is preparing you to receive the mark of the beast in the future future. That’s exactly
Right. If you’re running in fear because you’re looking at everyone running in chaos, you need to be running to the hands of the Lord and saying, Lord, help me.
Because you’re right. God is not a God of fear and chaos and all of this gray area stuff. He’s very clear on what he wants us to do.
That’s exactly right. And I am so glad that you said that because you’re right, especially within the other Christian patients that came in when you started and of course delivering truth with grace.
Absolutely. Right. Although I get a little fired up sometimes. God’s working on me. I’m just very passionate and I just want to shake people up. Wake up. Wake up. That’s right. Don’t be so
Afraid. That’s right.
If you believe in this, God put those boots on and march for the truth. Don’t be afraid because if we know this body is going to die regardless if you’re super healthy or not, but what continues to live is that spirit within you.
That’s exactly right.
And where is that going? We need to have a kingdom mindset, not an earthly one. So whatever happens in this world, it’s going to happen regardless of what I do or not do, whether I eat organic or exercise or not.
That’s right.
But when this body dies, I want my soul to be in the arms of our heavenly Father.
That’s right. And I always tell people, I’m like, look, if you are on fire for God and you are living out your purpose, it doesn’t matter what Satan throws at you, God will sustain you every step of the way. Amen. He’ll heal you. And that’s the other thing is that there are times when our bodies will go through. Absolutely. That’s sin. Sin entered this world, and the consequence of sin is death. So sin, our bodies are going get old and decay no matter what. Because of that.
I think that the real fear Dr. Warner, was that people were afraid of becoming sick and dying. So then I would really invite our audience that if you have that fear of being sick and dying, there’s something that your spirit needs to be fed, and you got to get into God’s word. And more importantly, you got to get into his presence.
That’s right.
So that you feel this reassurance of where your soul is going.
Right.
Otherwise, we will always be easily manipulated. And I truly believe that’s why God said, strengthen yourself spiritually, physically, mentally, and emotionally.
That’s right.
Then no one can shake you. The devil won’t shake you up. Amen. Because who’s with you? He’s the almighty, powerful creator. God. That’s right. That’s right. So, wow. I mean this conversation, I can feel like we could drag it up for hours. Sure, guys. But I just want to ask a funny, silly question. Oh, how many vaccines did Jesus Christ receive when he was born? You are on the edge of like, well, what about this? How many vaccines did Jesus receive? How many vaccines did the first man that God created receive?
That’s right.
Why did they live without these things? That’s right. And they were healthier too. I don’t trust any type of organization that has to manipulate information in order to gain control or gain profit. I absolutely will not trust them. And that’s what our pharmaceutical and the vaccine manufacturers and our healthcare system are bringing to you. Yeah. And that’s where we are all waking up. The public is waking up. We have known this for decades. It’s decades. Right. Any ending remarks really, I do believe we’re at a time where we are supposed to encompass that spirit of John the Baptist to prepare the way, stand on truth, point people to Jesus Christ every single time, and prepare the way of the soon second becoming of the Lord.
Amen. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I’m so happy to be here. We’ll have to bring you back and continue the conversations because there are so many different things that we can really touch on. So I really want to thank you for blessing the audience.
Thank you for doing this.
Absolutely. It hasn’t come easy, but I know that when we get attacked, it’s because we’re walking. We’re doing the assignment that God has set us to do. So it takes courage, but I enjoy it. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you. So I want to thank you guys for watching this episode. If you really like this kind of conversation, please make sure you comment and share it. And until next time, be blessed. Thank you for listening to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast. If you like what you’ve heard, please like, share and subscribe, help this message, and reach more people who may need to hear it. Leave your comments. I want to know what you think. If you’re interested in learning more about Raices, visit our website. Until next time, be blessed.