Join in the conversation with my colleague, Dr. Brett Butterfield, who is the founder and owner of NAMPA Naturopathic Health Clinic in Nampa, Idaho. We will talk about Applied Kinesiology, eating organ meats and other topics.
If you are interested in working with Dr. Brett Butterfield visit: https://www.nnhealthclinic.com/
Podcast Transcript:
Welcome to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast empowering you to take a whole person approach to your well-being, spirit, soul, and body. Join me your host, Dr. Ana Lara, a naturopathic, doctor, entrepreneur, and a servant of Jesus Christ. We are not just a body. We are spirit and soul. It’s time to integrate medicine and spirituality into our healing. Let’s get started. Hey everyone. Welcome back to Physician Heal Thyself, the podcast. This is Dr. Alara. Today I have a very special guest. He’s a colleague of mine and at one point he was my student doctor as well. So I want to introduce you to Dr. Brett Butterfield. He’s a naturopathic doctor and he is in the state of Idaho, so bring him on.
Good afternoon.
Hi, Dr. Brett. How are you?
I’m doing great, thank you. Good to be here.
Good. I’m glad to have you here. We ran into each other a couple of months ago, a month ago at the Vitalist Conference, and it was nice to reconnect with you. So this is going to be a conversation between two doctors. I don’t think that enough people know what a naturopathic doctor is or how we work, and I find myself oftentimes having conversations with my colleagues that other people are there and they’re like, wow, this should be recorded. So I want to keep that very conversational, but why don’t you start by telling us a little bit about yourself and what led you to become a naturopathic doctor?
Sure. Yeah. So I was born and raised in Idaho, and after graduating from school, I came back here to practice and I’m married and I have two stepkids and two dogs. And yeah, I’ve always had an interest in health and nutrition. I remember going all the way back to grade school when we’d have health class, and it was like first or second grade. They come in and teach us about how to read a label and how to look at calories and that kind of thing. And I just loved it and I started changing my diet based upon what I was learning there. Unfortunately, it was the nineties and it was a lot of bad information, I think at the time I was getting, but it gave me the opportunity to learn about health trends and to experiment a little bit. But yeah, I hadn’t heard of a naturopathic doctor while I was 21 that I was aware of. I had read one of Paul Bragg’s books in high school but didn’t connect that he was a naturopath and my family was going to a naturopath, and I saw that and I just knew that’s what I wanted to do.
Wow, that’s amazing that at such a young age you took that on your own. I wish more young people would do that today.
Yeah. I’ve considered maybe even going to some of these schools and help promote health, and my wife said, oh, I don’t know if anyone wants to hear that, Brett. I’m like, no, there are other people like me out there, and even these kids, I think they could have an interest in health.
Yeah, I actually would encourage you to do that because I think that at a young age if they’re exposed to this information and you present the information in a way that’s interesting to them, they will hold onto that information and start applying it. We have to start somewhere. I really believe that preventative medicine should start with our children, all children, because I work with a lot of oncology autoimmune conditions and those are really difficult situations for people to be in. And I constantly ask myself like, man, if we could just teach people to avoid getting cancer, it all starts with the nutrition. So tell us a little bit about how do you work with your patients. Because one thing about Naturopath is that we are all very unique in our approach. We’re all taught the same, we all have similar tools, but what sets you apart from other naturopathic doctors? How do you work with your patients?
I think I have a very distinct practice that separates me from other naturopaths. So I am holistic in that I’ll use several different tools, but it all plugs into the same operating system. So it’s one of the methods of applied kinesiology that’s been taught since 1978, and I’ve been doing that for 10 years. I started learning it when I was in naturopathic school. I really like it because it helps me almost have a conversation with somebody’s body. I can do these different tests and I get direct feedback, and so we want to essentially turn on the body and especially the autonomic nervous system is something I really focus on getting that regulated and attuning the nervous system, but that by itself certainly isn’t enough. I really work with people a lot on diet and lifestyle, and I think at the end of the day, you have to do that or else you’re not offering people cure, you’re not offering them long-term results.
What are the biggest challenges that you see that patients have when you are working with them?
Biggest challenges? Well, here I find it can be hard. Change is always hard. So if people really like coffee is a big one, they’re like, I don’t mind giving up sugar but have a hard time giving coffee. Now I actually say, I’m not a mean naturopath. I don’t want to take away all your favorite foods. I usually take away some of them for when we’re starting off to establish a foundation, and I might recommend eating some foods that they don’t want to eat too. So I recommend eating organ meats and Americans aren’t used to that, but I think it’s a great way to boost your health.
Yeah, talk about organ meats because I’ll tell you, growing up in a Mexican household, my mom loved making liver and it would smell delicious. I just could never get myself to eat it. It would smell so good the way she would prepare it. It smelled better than steak. So tell us a little bit about eating organ meats and why, because some people know about it, some people don’t.
Sure. And we probably do it a little bit more than we realize. So when you’re eating collagen’s really popular right now. That’s basically an organ meat or organ tissue. But yeah, the idea is those organs are concentrated with nutrients that are necessary for those organs to function. So it’s pretty well known that if you’re deficient in vitamin C, you would eat the adrenals of an animal if that’s all you had to eat. If you want to help your liver, then you would want to eat the liver of another, and especially beef is a great way to go. It has all the nutrients that your liver needs concentrated in the food. It’s arguably the most nutrient-dense food on the planet because there are so many functions of the liver, hundreds and hundreds of functions. And so it needs a lot of nutrition to be able to perform those functions, and it’s just all there concentrated, ready to go when you need that organ.
Right. So with your patients, are you recommending suggesting that they actually eat the organ meats or supplement with them, because I know there are a lot of supplements now that have the organ components in there.
Yeah, I largely haven’t found those to be as helpful. You have to take quite a bit of them, and they’re more expensive. They’re more, you just want to eat that organ meat. So I recommend four ounces of liver per week, and there are ways you can make it fun. So we just do my kids, they’ll ask for liver and we will serve it over some organic corn chips and do cheese, and so it’s like nachos or you can do tacos, you can do all kinds of things. And I say it doesn’t have to be your favorite meal of the week. It’s your medicine. And so it’s okay if it’s not your favorite meal.
So how do your patients react to that? I’m sure some of them like, no, I’m not going to do that.
Yeah, definitely. And so I don’t require it. There are some patients who if I see that’s more indicated, I will strongly recommend that. A lot of them will tell me flat out at the beginning, I’m not going to do that. Yeah. So it kind of gives me an idea of where someone’s at with their willingness to make changes like, Hey, I’m willing to do whatever it takes to get better. And sometimes they say that, but they’re like, yeah, but I want to eat liver. But yeah, so I say it just depends on how fast you want to get better. This will catalyze your healing.
So aside from liver, what other organs do you or your patients eat?
I did live in Mexico for a couple of years. I like the pita or minuto, which is the tri soup, and I feel like I need that at least once a quarter and you need it. So it’s a great, yeah, I think it’s a great way to nourish your gut and your intestines, your digestion. Those are probably the main ones that I do. Our liver and minuto,
No brain yet.
I’ve eaten a lot of different things, just not on a regular basis. It depends on its availability. So there’s a taco stand in Las Vegas. I like that they have brain tacos, and we would always go get that. Heart’s a great one to do that actually tastes a lot like steak. So yeah, there’s a lot of good ones. If I go to a restaurant, I always try and see if they offer some sort of organ meat.
Nice. When your patients who haven’t been eating organ meats do start eating them, what are the differences? What do people expect to see when they do start consuming more of these organ meats?
The one that I most emphasize is liver, and it just has such great detoxification potential. And so typically the symptoms of toxicity of acute toxicity are nausea and it can go as far as vomiting, just feeling that kind of malaise, yucky. And I said, you got to eat liver. So I was doing a heavy metal detox once and it was really building up and I felt sick and I ate liver and it was just gone. So that’s my go-to if people are feeling yucky during a detox, I’m like, you got to eat some liver. It’s also really important, I feel to eat at least nine ounces of red meat per week. And I say make it a rare steak that has the most benefit.
Yeah. When I met you, I was a student. I think I was a first or second year student in medical school. And the way I met you, you were doing the applied kinesiology. That was new to me, but I noticed how different I felt from whatever you did. So I took on the course two years in a row. It’s a lot. It really is a lot. But I would say that working with you in the clinic was something that really helped me. So can you talk a little bit about applied kinesiology for someone who maybe doesn’t know, I know it’s very extensive, but what’s the main structure of that that someone might be interested in trying that out or seeing a practitioner that doesn’t?
Yeah, sure. I like it. Again, it helps me as a practitioner know what’s going on with someone’s body, but the patient gets to see that firsthand too. They can see the way their body responds. And so when you’re doing applied kinesiology, the lay term is muscle testing. So you’ve got this doctor pushing on your arm and there’s different ways to test. So there are many, many different methods for applied kinesiology. So I mostly use one that’s like an anterior deltoid test. So I’ll test these different body points and the patient can see how their body responds, and that tells us something about how their bodies function inside. And I always try and be teaching while I’m doing that. And there are corrections I can do where we’re making attunements to the nervous system where I’m stimulating typically on the spine using an activator device or doing some cranial sacral corrections.
And we can see not only a change in the muscle path, but one of the reasons that I’ve stuck with it for so long and I really love it so much is whenever I’m receiving it, I feel a change in the moment. You’re a different person getting off the table than God on the table. And I liked that being able to feel the medicine work in the moment, and I can feel it when I’m working on somebody. I can feel the change in someone’s body and their energy, and there’s that connection with your patients and that intuition and yeah, I think it’s just, it’s incredible.
It really is a great diagnostic and treatment tool to assess what is a person’s body, what it’s their need, what the body needs. It’s telling us, giving us that information instead of us processing thinking, oh, this is what you need and go and do it. We’re actually testing the body to see is that what the body needs. Right. Would you say that’s one of the things you do apply kinesiology on all your patients?
Is that the way you Yeah, I put on arms all day. Yeah, all day long I’m doing it.
So working virtually with people, is that something that you’re not really doing in your practice? Because then a lot of nature paths went virtual completely. I didn’t.
Right. Boy. Well, if people are open to it, there is a way that you can do it remotely. So it’s a type of energy medicine at that point. And I have a pretty conservative crowd here in Idaho. I don’t really talk about too much, but it is very effective. I asked one of my patients this last week, and she’s experienced in person and remote for her and her family. I said, which one do you think is better? It’s more effective. And she said, I actually think they’re equal. I think they both work just as well. I prefer to be in person, but they both work.
I totally understand. There’s this term that in other therapies that I know it’s like a distant type of healing. And I get it that some especially Christians would be very like, oh, that’s witchcraft. I’m just going to go there right now. But if you think about God, the creator of all things, God is not limited to time, space, or matter. What do we do when we pray? Do I need that person in front of me to pray for them? Absolutely not. God works in mysterious ways, and to me, prayer, I have prayed, me and another person have prayed for an individual in a hospital without us physically being there. And that person miraculously received healing that the doctors were not even, they were shocked. How did that work? I think that people really need to under, well, it’s hard for us to understand God because we are the creation.
He is the creator. It’s like how can this laptop try to understand the creator who made it? It can’t. So we cannot fully understand God as much we like to, but he has given us a book with rules and guidelines and everyone’s going to understand those differently. So I think when we are healers, we are doctors, we’re healers, we’re teachers, and we’re integrating. Jesus got into our work, how we work, it’s very important. So I’ll tell you, I have given talks to mostly women in a church setting where they wanted to learn about nutrition. They wanted to learn about ways to take care of themselves. And this is a very tough group because they want to learn. And I’m not saying there’s anything wrong in leaning on God, but sometimes God is telling you what you need to do with the physical body. So when it comes to nutrition, everyone gets very, very emotional about what they’re going to eat. And you’re absolutely right. Coffee in a church setting, it’s their communion. And so I have started telling, especially people who have a strong faith in God, what are you making your idol? Because food, you make it your idol. If you cannot give up your coffee, you might be making your coffee your idle. So I feel like there’s these double standards when it comes to the therapy that you’re saying that you can work remotely and it has the same effect. It’s different and people are just not used to this distant way of healing.
And we’re, me and my wife, we’re Christians, and yeah, I haven’t really figured out a great way to breach that topic with other Christians. They are concerned and there is a rise of real witchcraft in our culture. Absolutely. And we do our best to really steer clear of any of that and even the appearance of it. And so I actually don’t even try to make my practice look Eastern or it looks very just traditional or conservative. And so I try and remove some of those barriers and then about the coffee, I say, you know what? I want you to be able to enjoy coffee but not need it. And once people get to that place, a lot of ’em don’t even go back to coffee or they do it a lot less and they do find that they feel a lot better. Yeah,
I agree. I’ve put people on detoxes and obviously they have to stop the coffee, and when they start drinking coffee, it’s like, I don’t need as much. Actually now my body’s overstimulated with even just a little bit, and they slowly stop. And I think that’s very key what you said. One thing is to have it and enjoy it, not need it, and then you’re relying on that thing as any addiction. Right. I need it to function. I want to go back a couple years. What was your experience like during Covid as an indie in Idaho?
Oh, no. I’m so blessed to be in Idaho because I think it may have been one of the best places on the planet during the shutdown. It’s very libertarian here that people don’t tread on me. They want to do their own thing. Now there’s certain parts of the state that aren’t that way, but where I was at, I was actually just starting a practice in July of 2019, and so just going right into Covid. So I’m really glad I was able to be in area I’m in and offer naturopathic care. During that time, I got a lot of phone calls and let’s see, that was five years ago, and so I’d only been in practice a few years, and I was still kind of a little scared and wet behind the here. So I wish I had been more bold and helped people out, and they needed that care, and I was afraid of the government. I was afraid that someone would come after me and wouldn’t be the first time as someone’s gone after a natropath. Yeah. But I am grateful we were able to keep our doors open and practice and give people care. I only, boy, I hardly ever wore a mask even.
Oh wow, that’s good. I mean, Arizona wasn’t as bad as other states. I think we still had to deal. There was a split. I was amazed how many colleagues wanted me to keep my doors closed out of fear. That fear was the real virus, was the fear. And so I was pretty new in business just like you during that time. And I did spend a couple weeks praying about it and asking God, what do I do? Do I close it? Stay open. At first, my initial reaction to all of this was great. This is an opportunity for us as nature paths to step up and help because we have all the tools and ways to help. But I came in with pink rose-colored glasses, and that’s not the way everyone around me felt. They felt the need to close up, stay home, take all these security measures, and what if your office becomes a vector and you spread disease?
And I’m like, Walmart is open, home Depot is open, and their parking lots are full. If I’m an essential worker, I’m a physician, I have the tools to help people, why would I stay home? Why would I close my doors? Plus being realistic, right? We’re a small business. If I close, I’m done. I did not want to take more loans out. I said, Nope, I have enough loans with student loans and other things. I did not want to take loans. I did not want to take the government’s help, just let me stay open and help people. And I did. And it was probably one of the busiest times for me. I was in my office, I started doing even remote work. And what I noticed Dr. Brett was, there’s so many people that are alone. They’re not just lonely, they’re alone. And so if I had a virtual call with someone who was referred to me, they had covid, I would tell them, here’s what you need to do.
Can you come by my office and get these supplements, these herbs? And they were so sick they couldn’t and they didn’t have anyone to come get them. So I was like being an Uber driver and just like, don’t worry, I’ll deliver it to you. And it was like the oddest thing. They’re like a doctor delivering supplements. I had to get the care to them. And my job was, if I can keep you out of the hospital and you can stay home and heal, you’ll be good. And I was that rebel. You know me to be that. I will stand up against whatever I feel is not okay and do the right thing. And I really hope that more of my colleagues or of our colleagues have that courage to stand up and just help people because people need help. Now as a result of what happened, then obviously we see a lot of issues that came from that. What are you seeing in your practice? Is it the same as what I’m seeing a lot of mental health issues, a lot of other issues because of even the covid vaccines that were administered? I see a lot of crazy stuff. What are you seeing in Idaho?
Let me just say real quick that I want your listeners to know that. Yeah, back in school, I remember you had a lot of integrity and the school was asking things from us they shouldn’t have asked. And you were standing really strong. And so thank you for doing that and being that person. Dr. Laura, thank you. As far as what I’m seeing in practice, you know what I think I’ve seen the biggest uptick in is panic. A lot of people have panic days, so an increase in anxiety, but also panic. That’s probably what I see the most. But it’s a really weird virus and it can cause all kinds of different things. There are a lot of long-term respiratory issues. So it’s something that I find myself asking pretty often. When was the last time you had covid? And if it lines up with when their symptoms began at all, then that’s high on my list of something we need to address,
Right? Yeah, definitely. What I found, what I have seen since that happened and now is that if people treated it right away the right way, they had no issues after. So every single patient that I worked with who had covid actively during that year, we got them treatment. I would keep them on treatment even after they healed for another month. And then I would monitor them and say, okay, now you can stop. And a lot of detoxing, a lot of healing stuff. Those individuals that had no, still to today, nothing that’s lingering around. But the people who came to me after they had covid that didn’t do all of that work that I had my patients do, they have the long covid symptoms, whether it’s a respiratory neurological, I see a lot of neurological effects of long covid. I did see some that autoimmune conditions were triggered.
They didn’t have it before, and they had a bunch of issues because of that, and these individuals were not vaccinated. So there is this group of people that, and there was one patient that I had very healthy individual, eats well, exercises, takes care of himself, not vaccinated. He did develop blood clots when he had covid, he went to his cardiologist, they worked him up, and they thought that was very rare that he developed clotting, and it was caused because of Covid. Of course. Then you have the people that come in that did have the vaccines, the boosters, and keep getting boosters. And I’ve seen an increase in cancers and populations that we normally wouldn’t see. I had a 19-year-old with colon cancer, never had a history of constipation. The doctors thought it was weird. She didn’t make it past three months, completely just took her out. But she had all of the boosters, all of that. So a lot of cardiac issues, and pulmonary issues, and our medicine can help to a degree. And that’s where I say you really need to lean into God and pray about this fast and pray and ask for healing because I really think there is another way to heal that we might not be fully aware of. But yeah, panic is still everywhere. And if you sneeze in public, some people are just still panicking about the idea of hearing or seeing someone sneeze. Did you see a lot of young people socially change because of that too?
Probably just the anxiety.
Anxiety.
Oh, you’re talking about, because the changes with school and everything. School, I’m not sure. We put our boys in a private school and it’s worked out pretty well for us. And then it’s actually a great private Christian school and they seem to let the parents make choice for themselves. But yeah, I don’t know if I have a more specific answer for you on that.
It’s okay. In the area,
I obviously think it was really hard on this generation. My heart goes out to them that they missed out on a lot of things and on the way that they learn have to go online. A lot of ’em and some of our colleagues had to go through naturopathic school that way to some extent is what I heard. But I definitely think it’s not ideal. It’s not conducive to optimal learning and living.
Yeah, I think the ones who really see the biggest result of all of this, what happened with young people, because I know a couple of people who work at the Phoenix Children’s Hospital here, nurses, psychiatrists, and she sees an increase, especially during that time, an increase in children with anxiety and depression, suicidality. So a lot of mental health issues have come from that. And I know that there’s a lot to go with that’s going to have a play on that because it also has to do with home life. Some children, some family, they were forced to be in a home that was not safe for them to begin with. So school was actually safer for them to be there. What do you see in the next five or 10 years in our industry in terms of naturopathic medicine or what would you like to see?
What would I like to see? What’s, what I’d like to see is I saw you recently at a conference that was teaching what I’d consider real naturopathy, like old school. And I think it’s important that we distinguish ourselves from these other professions. If someone wants to see a medical doctor and get pharmaceuticals, then that’s who they go to. I like having prescription rights, and I do here in Idaho, but that’s my last option. And so I’d love to see that more for our profession is see them go towards traditional naturopathic treatments. I think with Covid, we actually did see kind of a divide that a lot of ’em, like you said, were kind to shutdowns and masks and vaccines, and then the other part of it went the other way, and then we had to stand our ground a little bit more. So yeah, it could be a bit of an opportunity for our profession to define itself and who we are and what we offer, and we’ll see which party wins.
I agree with you. I think defining, having a clear definition of what a naturopathic doctor is, it’s a very unique, and it’s an art. What we do is an art, and it’s a beautiful art. I find it interesting that some of our colleagues might call themselves functional doctors. To me, that’s an insult because we really learn it all from the beginning. And I’ll tell you from knowing other doctors or nurse practitioners that want to practice the way we do, they’re getting it in pieces where we got the whole enchilada. We got the whole thing from the beginning, how to integrate it, all the philosophy, the theories, the history of it, and why it works and how it heals people. So I hope that we really do go back to those roots. And because what I see in my practice and interacting with other doctors and individuals and going to all the medical conferences that we go to, hearing other medical doctors that are more functional, hearing scientists talk about what they’re seeing, what they project to see the world is going to need more naturopathic doctors.
Without a doubt. There are so many people, people that are suffering and hurting from chronic diseases, they’re not being heard and acknowledged by their doctor. They don’t have any real solutions besides, here’s a medication that costs hundreds and thousands of dollars. If you have insurance, great. And if you don’t, then you’re out of luck. And like I said, these medications come with a lot of side effects. Our medicine doesn’t really have negative side effects. There are a lot of healing benefits to it, and I’m sure, do you work with insurance in Idaho or that’s a no? Yeah, I don’t work with insurance available in Idaho. Yeah, it doesn’t make sense. I usually tell people when they inquire, it’s two different paradigms. If you want to heal, this is how you work. You leave the middlemen out and you work with a doctor that has the solutions for you.
I don’t want to see you every month for the rest of your life. I want you to get better. And then when you are better, then you can come to me when you need me. And that’s how it should be. Hundreds of years ago, two, 300 years ago, people were not going to the doctor every month and getting prescriptions. So our society in this country, we’re not getting healthier. We’re getting sicker and sicker, and our system is not supporting individuals to heal, to really heal and cure through things. It’s just sick management. And so if our profession really looked at the greater scheme of things, we have a great opportunity to educate and people to take back their health, to turn things around. I always say diabetes type two diabetes is the easiest thing to cure, yet it’s a multi-billion dollar industry. When you take into account all the medications to manage diabetes just themselves, but all the other chronic conditions that diabetes causes visual problems.
So all the visits that you have to go to a doctor, I don’t know if I ever told you, I used to work for an ophthalmologist. He worked with retina and the number of patients that came in, they were doing all these invasive injections to the eyes and laser treatments, thousands and thousands of dollars in office. And then all the surgeries that he performed, I would say about 75% of his patients had diabetes, type two diabetes and the other had autoimmune conditions. And if I talk to those patients about nutrition or doing other things, they would not be seeing this doctor. That doctor would not be in business, not good for them, but good for the person. So that’s where we have to go back to doing the right thing for people because they just want to keep people. It’s like a manufacturing processing line.
They just want to keep, you’re going to the cardiologist and now the nephrologist and now the gastro doctor and back to the endocrinologist, and no one is communicating. You see that a lot. None of them are communicating with each other and they leave people in the dark without solutions, without really any real improvements. They’re enslaved to this system of medicine. Who wants that? I don’t. That’s daunting. To me, that’s not a way to live. That’s not a way to live. I don’t want to worry about taking medications. I don’t even want to worry about taking supplements. I’m with you. I might just try those organ meats, have my mom make some liver, some liver tacos. She didn’t make them yummy. They smell good. I just never ate them. But now going back and eating the real food, eat your food. That’s where you’re going to get your nutrition.
You don’t want to take these supplements, and I do, I dunno about you, but I get in my patient’s faces sometimes and say, Hey, I know you don’t want to do the supplements, the herbs and all of this, and you know what? Then here’s what you’re going to do. You’re going to eat this way and you’re going to exercise this many times a week. And they still him and ham. It’s like, okay. Then you have to do the supplements and the medication. You got to pick. You have to pick one or the other. What do you want in your life, Dr. Brett? Any ending remarks that you want to share?
Well, I’d say with what you just said, I try and make it clear as early as possible in practice. So if people have a clear expectation, I say, if you change nothing, nothing will change. So if you’re sick, then you’re going to have to make some changes or you’re going to keep getting more of the same thing. And I think that you can see tremendous benefit by doing a few simple things. So my main things are actually just having people drink plenty of water and really cut back on all types of sweeteners. And so it doesn’t cost any money to do either of those things. And then moving your body, going for a walk. Those are just some easy things you can do, I think can dramatically improve your health. And yeah, I think we can make that a family culture. I love working with mothers because they create the family culture and it’ll be generational, and I think you’ll have a lot more impact.
Absolutely. So you heard that guys drink more water, cut back on the sugar, the sweeteners, and move your body. Those are all three things that you could do two day full free, right? It costs you nothing. You have to just be determined to do it. You just have to make the decision. Otherwise, you’re going to live in chronic disease forever and then you can’t complain because that’s the choice you’re making. Dr. Brett, is someone in your area or wants to work with you? How can they get ahold of you if they have any questions or wanted to work with you?
We have to make ourselves available. So we have a website, our practice called Nampa Naturopathic Health Clinic, which tells you who we are and where we’re at. And yeah, they can call us. We have an online scheduler. We have social media. You’re able to get ahold of us. Absolutely.
We’ll make sure to include that information in our notes. Well, Dr. Brett, it was nice chatting with you and learning a little bit about what you’re doing in Idaho and keep up the great work and representing our naturopathic medical field. Thank you.
Thanks so much, doc. It was great being chatting with you again.
All right, we’ll touch base again. Have a nice one.
You too. Bye-Bye
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